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    #16
    You are right on the mark Bucket.

    There is a huge expansion in fert storage being built now in western Canada, 5,000 ton sheds and bigger,lots of them, strategic to ground distribution to the end users(farmers).

    The manufactures have off take agreements with the fert manufactures so they can keep the plants going year around vs surging for spring and some fall production, competing with the global supply, and the price gyrations of NOLA. This will also lower the production costs for manufacturing, it also creates a high priced captive market in western Canada.

    I think the G3, Alliance Grain Trade, type companies, have great access to off shore supplies, 10,000 ton shipments, could gain a lot of "good will", respect, loyalty from growers. It would be easy for them, build the big sheds, bring in unit trains from the ports. They could use the "Klause" model, farmer brings grain in and takes home fert, they would have a much larger draw area, could source from greater distances they grade or type of grain they want. In a dry year, or very competitive market that could be the difference maker.
    Last edited by Rareearth; Jul 17, 2016, 07:19. Reason: Spelling

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      #17
      G3 is Saudi owned .... might make sense for them to buy grain and ship fertilizer back ...the deal on two way freight from Saudi to the middle of the prairies would be quite a saving in itself.

      They should be able to kick the shit out the pricing policies used today and still make a good return.

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        #18
        And maybe they would trade a tonne of fertilizer for a tonne of grain.

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          #19
          What we need is a spot where we handle fertilizer at port to fill empty train cars coming back. Instead of loading it on a barge to bring it up the Mississippi and then reloading it to be redistributed.

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            #20
            Anyway , I think the grain markets have some more steam , I am hopping farming 101 is right on his insight .
            My input should be viewed as not worth more than the dot at the end of this sentence.

            Opinions of others should be researched thoroughly. See if they fit with your view of the market and your business. Hoping is not wrong, but planning is what needs to be done in the post _ _ _ world. If insurance is needed to keep things afloat, get it.

            While this rain has wrecked crops and downgraded others think of what it has done for this province as a whole. Big crop coming. Well, maybe not lentils.

            Not a very good shot for today but guess how much of this area is canola blooming. If your on a PC right click and hit "view image" for a closer look. Or go here and check it out for yourself. [URL="https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=AERONET_Bratts_Lake.2016198.terra.500m"]https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=AERONET_Bratts_Lake.2016198.terra.500m[/URL]
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              #21
              Originally posted by farming101 View Post
              My input should be viewed as not worth more than the dot at the end of this sentence.

              Opinions of others should be researched thoroughly. See if they fit with your view of the market and your business. Hoping is not wrong, but planning is what needs to be done in the post _ _ _ world. If insurance is needed to keep things afloat, get it.

              While this rain has wrecked crops and downgraded others think of what it has done for this province as a whole. Big crop coming. Well, maybe not lentils.

              Not a very good shot for today but guess how much of this area is canola blooming. If your on a PC right click and hit "view image" for a closer look. Or go here and check it out for yourself. [URL="https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=AERONET_Bratts_Lake.2016198.terra.500m"]https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=AERONET_Bratts_Lake.2016198.terra.500m[/URL]
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              Everyone would shit if they saw the actual sat shots that are not for public use.

              Well, maybe not. 65% give their yield data to Moline for free.

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