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    #25
    Nope. Don't want them. We don't need anymore competition from foreigners or foreign treasuries.

    South Africans have their Apartheid policy now being turned around and handed back to them. Who's the "Kaffir" now?

    This refugee thing is out of line also. Judging nowadays what actually qualities one as a refugee is getting a bit sketchy. If everybody in the world keeps flooding into Canada claiming refugee status, we'll be the ones ending up refugees.

    They'd never last anyway. It's too harsh and unforgiving an environment for most. That's in terms of weather, gov't policy, and economics.

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      #26
      Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
      Nope. Don't want them. We don't need anymore competition from foreigners.
      A bit rich in a country of immigrants. Besides there needs to be a huge land transfer on the prairies in the coming decades. The 60something grainfarmers aren't replacing themselves - can't be farming 100 quarters when they're 90!


      Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
      They'd never last anyway. It's too harsh and unforgiving an environment for most. That's in terms of weather, gov't policy, and economics.
      On the contrary - I'd suggest these people are used to a lot harsher climate in many respects and they've certainly been through the wringer with Government policy the last decade.

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        #27
        Of the immigrants here more than half haven't lasted a full decade.

        Yes we're a country of immigrants. That doesn't mean I like to see any more of them.

        Re South Africans, the ones that immigrated to South Dakota are a big problem. Attitudes, cultural issues, even crime.

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          #28
          Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
          Of the immigrants here more than half haven't lasted a full decade.

          Yes we're a country of immigrants. That doesn't mean I like to see any more of them.

          Re South Africans, the ones that immigrated to South Dakota are a big problem. Attitudes, cultural issues, even crime.
          I heard there were problems of that nature with the Somali immigrants in SD but not the South Africans - care to elaborate?

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            #29
            Here's a further point: Many posters here were against Syrian refugees being brought to Canada mainly because of their Islamic faith. But, South Africans are ok? Many are bigoted as shit. They're not all as nice as Charlize Theron.

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              #30
              We have a neighbour originally from South Dakota (he actually works for a German immigrant here). His family still farms/ranches there. The problem people are Afrikaners. They bought farmland in a block. They are acting like Hutterites but with a cultural chip on their shoulder. Their children have been involved in some criminal activities no doubt having trouble fitting in. They have zero tolerance for the Arikara people on nearby reservation.

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                #31
                Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                Nope. Don't want them. We don't need anymore competition from foreigners or foreign treasuries.
                Those of us exiting would love to get more demand for land/yards. Those building legacies better compete. 30% of farmers have no successors... get out the cheque books!

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                  Here's a further point: Many posters here were against Syrian refugees being brought to Canada mainly because of their Islamic faith. But, South Africans are ok? Many are bigoted as shit. They're not all as nice as Charlize Theron.
                  I agree that some of the South Africans are quite racist, I mentioned that at the outset. In my experience though I have found these attitudes worse among the "doctor set" than the "farmer set". I was/am in favour of Syrian refugees being allowed into Canada, I see so much space and so much opportunity here for more immigrants and that this could repopulate and revitalize our rural communities that are so often in decline - simply because the population and economic activity are in decline. You say many South Africans are "bigoted as shit" - I say so are many of the Agriville posters with regard to Syrian immigrants.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                    Here's a further point: Many posters here were against Syrian refugees being brought to Canada mainly because of their Islamic faith. But, South Africans are ok? Many are bigoted as shit. They're not all as nice as Charlize Theron.
                    brave, I must address the comments

                    Islamic doctrine is based upon religious teachings, including Mohammed's, which are contrary to Western morality.

                    His teachings specifically include killing infidels; honour killings; viewing nonbelievers as filth, making war on all infidels around them,and most unbearable, ...the triumph of Islam over all other religions.

                    Mennonite, Hutterite, Boer, Dukabour, Hindu and Christian doctrine do not teach their followers to kill all who differ with them. Their doctrine allows co-existence, But Islamic doctrine clearly instructs killing infidels. Islam must strive for supremacy.

                    You will most likely argue not all Muslins kill infidels, which is true.

                    But the 'benign' Islamic adherents do indeed systematically fund the soldiers, the killers, the instructions , the cost of terrorism. The 1.6B of Muslims worldwide, raise a lot of money every week in their mosques.

                    Besides, even If only 20% of the 1.6 B Muslims in the world are terrorists, do the math, we have a horrible problem.

                    Anyone who supports the supremacy of Islam throughout the world will never agree to co-exist in my world.

                    Anyone who ignores the violence and hate inherent in the religious doctrine of Islam, which continues to be taught today,
                    the same as it has been taught for centuries, is helping to destroy Western culture.

                    **** and terrorism and the subjugation of women will only exacerbate whilst Islamic sympathizers ignore Islam's goal of world domination, with Sharia Law legalizing its tents of subjugation, jihad and terrorism.

                    I have watched Sweden stupidly lose its' country to foreign hordes who hate them; it's government ignoring the citizen-losers in the immigration scheme. 23 no-go zones now deny Swedes entry. **** is as common as blowing your nose.

                    Call me a bigot, as you call South Africans, brave,I'll wear the badge openly, which I find rather amusing.

                    You see, good Muslims don't want infidels as their friends, because their Prophet Mo demands, "Do not make friends with non-Muslims (9:23). That's a divine instruction aimed at disbelievers.

                    That would be me. And some South Africans. And Baptists.

                    Pars

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                      #34
                      Wheatking says "I think any person that is under severe persecution such as these South African farmers, should be given the fast track to immigrating to Canada, especially if they can work."

                      Should Cndn farmer orgs be part of that process of assisitng Boers, or should they go thorough the mainstream immigration system, Wheatking?

                      I value your opinion.

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                        #35
                        Oliver says "The Boers farmers and other farmers in SA or Zimbabwe who are facing a possible genocide should be preferred refugees."

                        Should Cndn farmers/ farm groups make that recommendation to Immigration Canada?

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                          #36
                          One of the main thing that caused decline in rural western Canada is the greedy old farts who can't sell their assets so with no local opportunity the young folks headed to the city. Now young farmers have to compete with Chinese money launderers for opportunity which will continue the population decline. Doubtful that importing Boers will have much affect on declining rural communities.

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