Rope for sale.....Again!

[dave4441]

Your family owned the local JD SF3. There is a reason you are as successful as you are. Stop the pretending.

[grassfarmer]

RTK, You misunderstood my intent - I'm not talking about trying to send a little message hoping input suppliers will back down and reduce the prices they charge you thus allowing you to keep on doing what you've always done. I'm talking about farmers making significant structural changes to their own businesses so that they don't need to be on the treadmill.


No SF3, you are the one that hasn't a clue. You claim to be an out of the box thinker but all we hear is mindless wailing about all spectrums of the industry and how it affects "ME". The last person on earth likely to be part of a group effort to build or be part of communal effort for the greater good. That's OK though - not everyone is cut out for that role. If you are the fiercely independent farmer that many on here, and in western Canada, seem to be then forge ahead and do something different. Go forth and prosper, the world is your oyster - you have got your "marketing freedom" and your global marketplace.
Looks to me like you are too chicken to jump ship from your position of comfort and prefer to cling on to your security blanket of commodity production all the time deriding collective marketing, the NFU, anything that might be considered "building something together" meanwhile out the other side of your mouth you are crying that everybody is out to get you from rain to bankers but still can't resist boasting about your new machinery or your holidays. Not so much an "out of the box thinker" as a lot of jumbled thoughts rattling about in an empty box.

[dave4441]

Wow. If you want to know what I believe 100 percent of the time call me. 1(306)931-7775. Tell the person that answers that you are from Agriville. I will tell you 100 percent of the the what I think about the pulse crop mkt. Right now yellow peas are going to $6/bu. I am unsure om green peas. Think $8 is too low. Reds should get to 25 before 30. Estons are too high and large green lentils are a mystery.

[furrowtickler]

Thx Dave , maybe pushed a bit hard but it frustrating watching local markets tank because they simply can

[RTK]

Grassfarmer - please enlighten me on the structural changes that farmers can make to get off this treadmill. I like to think that I manage my operation pretty carefully and think outside of the box and make decision that make economic sense to me... I focus on my core business - conventional grain farm. So my outside the box thinking is likely similar to SF3. I have seen how lack of focus and massive changes can sink a farm operation. Remember if we all transition to niche markets/public fads I assure you oversupply is the result and once again we are faced with the same problem I alluded to earlier.

Please elaborate on your thoughts so I can take a critical look at it and see if it has merit for my operation.

RTK

[grassfarmer]

Sorry, I'm not doing your thinking for you I have enough to do running my own ship. From my own experiences there will be no easy, obvious alternate way or everybody would be doing it. Human ingenuity is a great thing though - where there is a will there is a way. Everyone's solutions and systems will be different as their skills, ambitions and resources are different. One thing I'd suggest would be taking a Holistic Management course as that seems to alter most people's outlook on agriculture, nature and running a business.
Was driving today past lots of farms harvesting and really noticing that there are few crops other than wheat and canola. Nobody seems to be growing their own nitrogen other than a few beans, hardly any livestock that could utilize crop residues or low quality grain. The wheat fields that were harvested looked depressing to me. Completely dead, sterile and growing nothing until they get seeded 8 months from now. It's maybe a by-product of "successful" conventional agriculture but it isn't good for the soil - it really is un-natural.

[freewheat]

Grassfarmer, I have a couple questions. Check your pm box.

[RTK]

Grassfarmer - that is not a very holistic approach your taking by not sharing your knowledge with a fellow farmer. Fair enough I think you answered my question anyway.

Think I will continue with my management style as it has afforded me a living and growth maybe the next generation will curse me for sterilizing the land.

[dave4441]

Dave has the entire world market for yellow pea dropped 40% , or just here in western Canada ? I hear the pipeline still rather empty world wide . I could be missinformed .

Worldwide. Black Sea origin yellow peas beat us to India. Big Crops in Ukraine and Russia. And expected good chickpea crops in Australia and India is dropping