Two days till the Retarded Sister is dead!

[SASKFARMER3]

Funny how the Canola council still beaks that its farmers fault on the canola and dockage. Ok farmers are going to pay the price big time if this shit doesn't get fixed.

Its greedy elevator companies that are to blame for this whole mess. If a farmer has a problem he spends and gets the problem fixed. If the railways or elevators have a problem the big babys blame the farmer and he has to pay to fix the problem.

They got caught with their pants down selling shit to and screenings to countries for years in form of legal allowable dockage.

Farmers since time began have been charged took age or dockage or what ever the grain company wanted to take from the farmer to get the grain down to 0% dirty. Then the grain companies had deals to put grain back in the shipment at coast to allowable amount.

Follow the money count how much money they took from farmers over the years and how much the other countries paid extra over the years.

Our local elevators use to buy rye all the time but never ever shipped a car of rye to the coast unless there was a big need for a bunch. Hm where did all that rye go. You got it as allowable dockage.

Fun and games boys and girls call it what you like just follow the money. What ever the out come I bet the farmers will be the ones to pay and pay big time for what ever the decision is.

New screens that take out all small seeds up to 5% from the old screen that took less.

Crushers won't compete with local elevators so basis is ugly. Oh wait the crushers are the local elevators. Ah how farmers pay and pay sum more.

What a system.

Oh then Trudeau is heading there to straiten it out. Yea watch how that will work out for us farmers. Probably we will have to ship all canola to Montreal under the deal to be cleaned then shipped by rail all way back to coast to leave on boat.

Just saying this whole thing smells funny. Yes the chineses are no angles but something is definitely wrong.

[SASKFARMER3]

New standards on Canadian canola exports being demanded by China has producers worried, something the prime minister said is a priority as he heads to Beijing.

China, which takes about 40 per cent of Canada's canola seed exports, is insisting the amount of dockage — foreign material like stems and pods — be cut down from 2.5 per cent to one per cent, effective this Thursday.

"Somebody has to pay for that and at the end of the day it's coming out of the farmer's pocket.China intends to apply new inspection standards on Sept. 1, which may block Canadian exporters from selling canola to Chinese importers. Stakes are significant for the largest exporter of canola in the world. More than 40 per cent of our annual canola exports, $2 billion worth, is bought by China. Canada relies on its big Kahuna, China, to sell this versatile commodity so it can pursue what is considered by many Canada’s greatest agricultural story in its young history.

More than 40 years ago, plant breeders in Manitoba created canola. It represents one of Canada’s greatest contributions to world agriculture as it produces the world’s healthiest vegetable oil. It is also affordable. In livestock, due to its high protein content, canola is also ideal for animal feed. With well over 43,000 producers involved, canola is Canada’s Oil for global food systems. Science, capital markets, intellectual property management, and economic development know-how all combine forces to generate what is now a very successful industry. The canola story is so compelling that Canadian producers are trying to replicate similar magic with other crops, such as lentils.

The standoff in China, however, is about the dockage level, which reports high concentrations of plants and weeds in Canadian canola. China is concerned that the current dockage level will spread blackleg disease to Chinese crops. However, the concerns regarding blackleg are not new. China registered concerns a few year ago and applied new standards. Nevertheless, China bought more than four million tons of canola from Canada this past year, which is 90 per cent of its imported canola.
China is slowly becoming a food-sovereign nation on many fronts. It is producing more hogs, chicken, grains and so forth. China has imported a record amount of canola over the last decade, but this amount has begun to decline since 2014. By using its centrally coordinated economy, China is enticing consumers to eat less meat, which puts less pressure on its agricultural system to produce more. This change in focus may result in lower grain imports over the long term. China is struggling to increase yields but is attempting to give its agricultural system a chance by making its market less protein-hungry.

Nonetheless, if China implements new certification standards related to blackleg, it has alternative options and can buy elsewhere. Meanwhile, Canadian canola farmers may be dealing with a bumper crop this year. Canola futures are down more than 15 per cent since May as some are predicting stockpiles before next year’s harvest which may push prices even lower. If China stays on the sideline, prices may drop even further.

On the other hand, Canada also has options should China play hard to get. Canada can sell its excess canola supplies to the European Union, the Middle East and other parts of the world. Trades go both ways and market conditions will adjust. It is the beauty of global trade. Canola is too much a perfect commodity to pass up.

It won’t be a disaster for Canada regardless of the outcome. However, Canada should note that it is not dealing with the same Chinese customer it once was. China has been incredibly successful in increasing production capacity. It is also upholding stricter standards, and is becoming a better steward of the land. These changes are happening quickly, more so than many Canadians appreciate.

Whatever solution we come up with, we need to remember who the customer is. Being the inventor of canola does not give Canada immunity, but it does bestow the responsibility of making the commodity adaptable to market conditions. Diplomacy can go a long way, particularly in agricultural trades since the Canadian brand is really what is at stake here. After all, canola has our identity written all over it.

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes with Europe having a poor crop the world ****seed situation is tight. Canada's crop is not as big as they are talking. So is this a ploy to play the market now China is real good at that.

Time will tell.




Flat land and floods really produce big yields. HA HA


2010 again.

[ajl]

I like how the Canadian farm press parrots Chinese nonsense. I think the real story is that China is sitting on stockpiles of canola half rotten bought n the past few years. It now needs real clean canola to blend with it in order to get it through the crush plants. I doubt they produce much domestically so blackleg is just an excuse. I know my canola will not be 1% thanks to 2 feet of rain and the resultant flooding and late flush weeds,

[sumdumguy]

Grain companies have as much to lose as farmers do if they refuse to clean up their act. 2.5 percent doc is not acceptable - get it? Who knows what they add back in. I've heard stories back in CWB days about what they add back at terminals - i am sure you all have.

In the case of special crops, most special crops processors have responded to the standards required by their buyers, why the "h" can't the elevator companies do the same? I know the answer but where's the government in this picture? Why can't export standards be regulated? It is definitely a market that we can't afford to lose.

[SASKFARMER]

I agree it's a very very very important country and we need it!

I just find it funny how it's all our fault loss problem etc but not one report that the grain companies play the game every boat load. Plus they own most of the crushers so do they care if none gets shipped out by boat. They can get all the supply they want for pennies on the dollar as farmers get squeezed for cash.

Oh but they are Angels who do everything by the book.

It's a game follow the money!

[bucket]

It never ceases to amaze me how something that has been in the news for this long can't be resolved by the deadline or the use of a drama teacher.

Much like union contracts ... is it the union guys or management that don't do their job to reach an agreement?

[sumdumguy]

You guys will cringe when I say this but China has a lot of respect for Justin, just like his father and Justin is there now. Maybe Justin will come back and reign in these grain companies. Our canola will be under 1% in the combine tank, so come on down China, we'll be glad to circumvent the big three. Call up the special crop marketers, they'll supply the right stuff. 👍

[fjlip]

Correct, P & H already met Chinese requirements, more will follow when the wallet gets squeezed. We are usually 1% or less, so come on farmers SET your combines!

[cottonpicken]

This issue is apart of a much bigger trade issue,they are not even in tpp,look whats happening with steel.

[macdon02]

I'm not up to snuff on trade. ... but isn't there 25% duty on canola going into China and something like 50% on canola oil?

[furrowtickler]

The retarded sister is going to pay 3 X the net return over most cereals here
Unless it crashes as well , hope this China deal holds .
Line companies need to be investigated for adding dockage to clean grain as it enters the grain cars . That is the dockage China is pissed about - and they should be
It's a practice as old as the first cleaner in an elevator for a way get rid of screenings and get paid for it

[sumdumguy]

Think their gig is up? Short all elevator stock.