CWAD Grades

[bgmb]

with that kind of volume you might want to look for a portable seed cleaner, Color sorters are not great in wheat from what i have seen and a sorter would definitely need to be used in conjunction with other machines.

[bucket]

.5 percent is the limit for 1 and 2 cwad.

Pretty tough to go from commercial salvage to a 1/2cwad.

[Klause]

No.. talking 5-in-1 followed by a bomill.


We've taken some samples of absolute crap to a lab setup one.

Commercial salvage. Fusarium screenings from a seed cleaner... It's amazing what they can pull out.

No false positives, and you get 100% of fuz, even sort piebald from regular durum kernels.


They aren't super-fast... But a guy only needs to sort say 1/3rd of the crop... and then you have blending power... Especially a year like this year #1 durum will be worth a premium for blending to elevators.

Thing is we would need $2/bu to run wheat through it to make it pay...

Have a friend who would partner in setting up a mobile unit.

[bgmb]

Sounds too good to be true, unreal if it does work. how many bu/ hour? what is the rough cost of a bomill?

[RedLentil]

I have done plenty of research and number crunching on this issue. I think there is an opportunity with this new technology for the the farmer to add value on the farm instead of the grain companies holding all the cards.

The Only limitation I see with the Bo-Mill is capacity/$. Buhler color sorters have NIR capabilities and according to the people at Can Seed Equipment they have been successful at removing Fuz and Vomi from wheat at 5 times the capacity for the same price as a Bo-Mill.

Thought?

[farmaholic]

I think I will be looking for a magic wand to turn my durum from sow's ear to a silk purse. Like I said before, I haven't seen it in a harvested sample but with the incessant wet weather it went through and the likelyhood of "some" fusarium in it it won't be "pretty". Our Spring Wheat is actually pretty decent with not a lot of fuzz in it, but durum being more susceptible will likely lend itself to higher levels.

I think it was 2013 when we grew commercial salvage...had it cleaned over a gravity table took out alot (18 to 20%, can't remember for sure, would like to forget and hoped I'd never have to deal with it again) anyway...got a little over $7.00 for the clean stuff and $3.25 for the ghostly white light screenings (which was absolute luck).

Lots of assumptions but I have that feeling....

[biglentil]

I have a 2014 Bench portable unit and will set up on your farm with my guy and take 5 percent fuz to 1 percent fuz for 75 cents a bushel at 300 bushels an hour. Screenings were about 12 percent on Durum. All you need to supply is one 50 amp welder plug.

[wmoebis]

I have a 2014 Bench portable unit and will set up on your farm with my guy and take 5 percent fuz to 1 percent fuz for 75 cents a bushel at 300 bushels an hour. Screenings were about 12 percent on Durum. All you need to supply is one 50 amp welder plug.

Not ? you but if it can be cleaned that easily with machines like bench portaable why can't the elevators clean it with their machines or a lot now have colour sorters or could set up gravity tables and bo mils.

Fuss would then be classed as dockage or if they had to use extra cleaning like sorter or bo mill it could fall under the guide as cleaning for grade improvement.

Maybe it is time the grade guide needs to catch up to possible modern ag equipment and practices.

On the other hand will the removal of Fuss kernals change the vomi results?

[biglentil]

Did 40000 bushels of 5 percent fuz durum graded as sample in 2014 sold it all cleaned up as #3 1 percent fuz, sold all the screenings for 4 bucks. Its not perfect but good enough to turn 4 dollar durum into 9 dollar back then. Machine uses two courses of suction and screens.

[bucket]

Sounds good.

A 3cwad is worth 5 bucks minus the 75 cents minus the 15 percent kick out.

All of sudden the math is 3.50 picked up at the farm....

Not happy with the shit price but this is going to be a big deal this year.

The local went from 1.51 to 66 cents in three days.

[farmaholic]

wmoebis....the scalper(?) and gravity table process wasn't perfect by any means. A bit of poor durum in the clean and a bit of good durum in the screenings. Because I will be dealing with weathered durum this year I don't know if cleaning to remove fusarium damage kernels will be worth it. Time will tell.

What I do know is we probably shouldn't be growing durum with it's high susceptibility to fusarium. The pathogen is here and with the right conditions we are apt to have problems and relying on fungicides that only claim suppression is a bit futile with high disease pressure. Could be a long time before we see any variety with a meaningful level of resistance.

[biglentil]

Sounds good.

A 3cwad is worth 5 bucks minus the 75 cents minus the 15 percent kick out.

All of sudden the math is 3.50 picked up at the farm....

Not happy with the shit price but this is going to be a big deal this year.

The local went from 1.51 to 66 cents in three days.

There your screenings too.