Harvest Showdown

[furrowtickler]

All the big boys were out at a farm by Leask, actually hobby's area a few days ago.
Deer , Case , New Holland and Lexion
All the American made machines had full support staff and harvest tecs.
The Lex showed up with one guy
They did drop pans and weigh wagons all day on canola .
The North American combines and there support staff weren't to happy at the end of the day.
Guess it was not even close from what I hear .
All the biggest and best head to head
Kinda like the World Cup lol

[farmaholic]

No Agco?

The stuff we throw out is the stuff we didn't have room for.

[furrowtickler]

Lol , Agco has nothing in that league
Possibly a 8 combine deal for Lex .
Not even sure Agco has 8 large Masseys in western Canada lol

[bigzee]

What were the results??

[SASKFARMER]

The guys local with lex are happy but support is a big problem,your on your own

[furrowtickler]

Basically The Lex had 20% more capacity with the lowest losses and up to 40% less fuel/acre over the Deer / Case . New Holland faired better it was said.
Don't know exact numbers , I was not there.
I would guess there will be different variances depending what Color hat you wear.
I don't wear any of them , and was not there so can't verify, don't really care just found it interesting.
Got info from 3rd party , non biased - with I will believe far more than the colour info that may or may not come out.
What is not surprising that the same results happened locally last week on a couple large farms that run the big Deers, and that was in very dry conditions at times.
It is what it is , Lexions are designed for high volume small grains and the big Deers and Case are specifically designed for corn and Soy and modified for small grains . Really no surprise .
High horsepower single rotors guzzle fuel and overload sieves easily . Just the way they are designed
One needs to remember , even big corn and soy crops put very little MOG on sieves , so they work fine in those crops .
The old saying that , speed kills, rings true in certain crops here lol

[farming101]

Had a Claas once 60's vintage. Worst combine I ever saw. Did something change?

[iceman]

No Agco?

The stuff we throw out is the stuff we didn't have room for.

I'm sure the farmer had a tin shed that stays in the yard like everyone else

Iceman out

[Braveheart]

Having a good dealer with good service, parts supply, rescue combines available, etc., will trump super duper combine capacity any day for me.

I like the Lexion design but the dealer is an hour away and doesn't have a stellar reputation.

[fjlip]

"Lexions are designed for high volume small grains and the big Deers and Case are specifically designed for corn and Soy and modified for small grains"
All I read on combine forum and agtalk says Lexion are a corn eating MONSTER also.

[Klause]

You can't beat the sample out of a claas, the efficiency (tonnes/hr, gal/tonne).

The same design from 1996 to today with more electronics.



Took wheat samples into an elevator today... got asked if we cleaned it. LOL.

Dealer support with the harvest centers in ab and sk there's no comparison when your dealership is a company store.

Claas here are taking over the neighbourhood.

60 to 70 bpa hard red wheat 3 to 4 mile an hour 36' header straight cut and it wasn't desiccated.

[biglentil]

I like sample full of weed seeds keeps em outa my field. My ole biggest rotor there is was doing 4mph on 40ft shaving ground in tough 75bpa lodged durum. Yellow 8 series at least a mph off same with the 8010 red one. Cant speak for claas but see an overly complex hard to work on piece of iron.

[fjlip]

The BIGGEST issue with conventional cylinders we had forever was grain cracking/damage. Why would Claas not damage? They are conventional design with rotor separation as was JD CTS. How is it prevented? We calculated 2% cracks over many years and fuel is cheap. Plus much of damaged seed goes out the back, unseen. Read old PAMI reports and they showed the huge diff to rotary. NH twin rotors beat all for lowest loss and damage...see 2015 Guinness world record. Our 9870 has near ZERO cracks, most wheat looks like cleaned, 0.5% DKG, canola 1% typical. When checked 6 liters fuel per acre in wheat, 5 liters in canola. Instantaneous bu/hr typical 800.

[furrowtickler]

Maybe shoulda called this post Fired Up Friday ! Lol
Anyway , no skin in the game just interesting info on the biggest newest bestest combines runnin .
No doubt rotaries were a nice leap in their day , but I think they have overpowered them now to keep up with the Egos of some and actuall productivity of these machines worth more $500,000 is the question now .

[farmaholic]

Icy...I'm not sure if you're catching my thermals.....I meant the grain that gets thrown out the back of the combine we never have room for anyway. Am I causing too much turbulence? Calmer conditions ahead.