Harvest Showdown

[fjlip]

The BIGGEST issue with conventional cylinders we had forever was grain cracking/damage. Why would Claas not damage? They are conventional design with rotor separation as was JD CTS. How is it prevented? We calculated 2% cracks over many years and fuel is cheap. Plus much of damaged seed goes out the back, unseen. Read old PAMI reports and they showed the huge diff to rotary. NH twin rotors beat all for lowest loss and damage...see 2015 Guinness world record. Our 9870 has near ZERO cracks, most wheat looks like cleaned, 0.5% DKG, canola 1% typical. When checked 6 liters fuel per acre in wheat, 5 liters in canola. Instantaneous bu/hr typical 800.

[furrowtickler]

Maybe shoulda called this post Fired Up Friday ! Lol
Anyway , no skin in the game just interesting info on the biggest newest bestest combines runnin .
No doubt rotaries were a nice leap in their day , but I think they have overpowered them now to keep up with the Egos of some and actuall productivity of these machines worth more $500,000 is the question now .

[farmaholic]

Icy...I'm not sure if you're catching my thermals.....I meant the grain that gets thrown out the back of the combine we never have room for anyway. Am I causing too much turbulence? Calmer conditions ahead.

[blackpowder]

After some thought i think dealer support and parts availability coupled with reliability would be almost primary. These things aiding resale and cost etc. also.

[hobbyfrmr]

You can't beat the sample out of a claas, the efficiency (tonnes/hr, gal/tonne).

The same design from 1996 to today with more electronics.



Took wheat samples into an elevator today... got asked if we cleaned it. LOL.

Dealer support with the harvest centers in ab and sk there's no comparison when your dealership is a company store.

Claas here are taking over the neighbourhood.

60 to 70 bpa hard red wheat 3 to 4 mile an hour 36' header straight cut and it wasn't desiccated.

I had the same reaction with organic milling oat samples.

John Deere dominates this territory. Im am pretty sure it is all about the cost per acre to harvest. Who ever gives the best deal gets the business no matter what color machine the minions drive, as long as the "boys" get a free hat!

[furrowtickler]

Agree with the dealer aspect of it for sure
The local Case dealer is very good and blows all others out of the water with their community support . Actually the Deer dealership should be embarrassed but they simply don't care .
What will make it interesting is the new Class dealer set up shop and look very aggressive - will be interesting to see if their parts and service can keep up to potential sales.
But at the end of the day those with multiple big combines, they ingnore the numbers in the field . Fuel is not cheap when you go from 14 gal per hr to 24 gal hr. Let alone less capacity .
Gal / bus / hr with less grain loss are something that should not be ignored by anyone if you want to stay in business

[hobbyfrmr]

[QUOTE=furrowtickler;325205]Agree with the dealer aspect of it for sure
The local Case dealer is very good and blows all others out of the water with their community support . Actually the Deer dealership should be embarrassed but they simply don't care .
What will make it interesting is the new Class dealer set up shop and look very aggressive - will be interesting to see if their parts and service can keep up to potential sales.
But at the end of the day those with multiple big combines, they ingnore the numbers in the field . Fuel is not cheap when you go from 14 gal per hr to 24 gal hr. Let alone less capacity .
"Gal / bus / hr with less grain loss are something that should not be ignored by anyone if you want to stay in business.

"Gal / bus / hr with less grain loss are something that should not be ignored by anyone if you want to stay in business"QUOTE

Not really, they just make up for it in volume.. (Sarcasm)

[JDGreen]

Being the owner of a seed cleaning facility I can flat out tell you which machines produce the cleanest least damaged product consistently. Funny how I never seem to be able to fit certain colors in my cleaning schedule LOL..

[farmaholic]

I assume you aren't referring to John Deere unless your first name starts with a J, your second name starts with a D and your last name is Green

You may as well give us your educated opinion....

[JDGreen]

If I was to put in order what samples I prefer to work with:

1) Deere and Case
2) New Holland
3) Lexion
4) Massey

Odd gleaner samples usually run well but don't have enough of them around to rate them .. Dont believe me your welcome to work in the plant all winter and come up with your own preferences.

[freewheat]

I owned and ran a seed cleaning plant for a decade, and I can say by what I cleaned, not the color or type of machine did the best job. But I can sure tell who knew how to set a combine. Some of the best samples were out of JD 9600's.

Some guys with nh twins and case "roto thrashers" obviously knew not how to set their machines.

Conclusion: it was in the setting knowledge, not the machine color or type...

[biglentil]

I agree freewheat.