Harvest Showdown

[blackpowder]

After some thought i think dealer support and parts availability coupled with reliability would be almost primary. These things aiding resale and cost etc. also.

[hobbyfrmr]

You can't beat the sample out of a claas, the efficiency (tonnes/hr, gal/tonne).

The same design from 1996 to today with more electronics.



Took wheat samples into an elevator today... got asked if we cleaned it. LOL.

Dealer support with the harvest centers in ab and sk there's no comparison when your dealership is a company store.

Claas here are taking over the neighbourhood.

60 to 70 bpa hard red wheat 3 to 4 mile an hour 36' header straight cut and it wasn't desiccated.

I had the same reaction with organic milling oat samples.

John Deere dominates this territory. Im am pretty sure it is all about the cost per acre to harvest. Who ever gives the best deal gets the business no matter what color machine the minions drive, as long as the "boys" get a free hat!

[furrowtickler]

Agree with the dealer aspect of it for sure
The local Case dealer is very good and blows all others out of the water with their community support . Actually the Deer dealership should be embarrassed but they simply don't care .
What will make it interesting is the new Class dealer set up shop and look very aggressive - will be interesting to see if their parts and service can keep up to potential sales.
But at the end of the day those with multiple big combines, they ingnore the numbers in the field . Fuel is not cheap when you go from 14 gal per hr to 24 gal hr. Let alone less capacity .
Gal / bus / hr with less grain loss are something that should not be ignored by anyone if you want to stay in business

[hobbyfrmr]

[QUOTE=furrowtickler;325205]Agree with the dealer aspect of it for sure
The local Case dealer is very good and blows all others out of the water with their community support . Actually the Deer dealership should be embarrassed but they simply don't care .
What will make it interesting is the new Class dealer set up shop and look very aggressive - will be interesting to see if their parts and service can keep up to potential sales.
But at the end of the day those with multiple big combines, they ingnore the numbers in the field . Fuel is not cheap when you go from 14 gal per hr to 24 gal hr. Let alone less capacity .
"Gal / bus / hr with less grain loss are something that should not be ignored by anyone if you want to stay in business.

"Gal / bus / hr with less grain loss are something that should not be ignored by anyone if you want to stay in business"QUOTE

Not really, they just make up for it in volume.. (Sarcasm)

[JDGreen]

Being the owner of a seed cleaning facility I can flat out tell you which machines produce the cleanest least damaged product consistently. Funny how I never seem to be able to fit certain colors in my cleaning schedule LOL..

[farmaholic]

I assume you aren't referring to John Deere unless your first name starts with a J, your second name starts with a D and your last name is Green

You may as well give us your educated opinion....

[JDGreen]

If I was to put in order what samples I prefer to work with:

1) Deere and Case
2) New Holland
3) Lexion
4) Massey

Odd gleaner samples usually run well but don't have enough of them around to rate them .. Dont believe me your welcome to work in the plant all winter and come up with your own preferences.

[freewheat]

I owned and ran a seed cleaning plant for a decade, and I can say by what I cleaned, not the color or type of machine did the best job. But I can sure tell who knew how to set a combine. Some of the best samples were out of JD 9600's.

Some guys with nh twins and case "roto thrashers" obviously knew not how to set their machines.

Conclusion: it was in the setting knowledge, not the machine color or type...

[biglentil]

I agree freewheat.

[farming101]

Interesting comments on cleaning grain from different color combines.

After cleaning grain for way to long my observation is that HRSW is likely the only grain that comes down to type of combine. If someone is going after the last small kernel or two with a conventional of any color cracked wheat will shovel out of your cleaner like nobody's business. You can tell in the first minute after the grain hits the screen. Rotaries crack way less; with the larger diameter rotors cracks can show up.

Most else is operator settings, harvest speed, preference, quality of crop stand, terrain, and what shape the machine is in.

[JDGreen]

And very true comments. Already gearing up for some plant changes to deal with increased trash from a very difficult harvest thus far. Won't matter what color.. All will be more difficult this year

[fjlip]

To achieve our "clean undamaged" wheat we run all small wire concaves, 4 cover plates in 1,2,4,&5, clearance at 14, rotor at 980, chaffer at 14, sieve at 5 and fan at 1100. How does that compare with others?
Jay Dee suggests that 14 concave, promotes grain to thresh against itself in the rotary. Too tight and it just augers out the back and takes huge power/fuel.
A conventional/Claas threshes by IMPACT, one chance and into walkers/rotors. Needs near zero clearance. Agree?
A plus for the rotary is wheat/barley/oats straw turns into DUST. Had a hell of a mess with long straw/harrowing/seeding after 9600.

[Klause]

Claas is a 3 pass system. 11mm clearance 750 rpm on cylinder to thrash wheat. 0 whitecaps and 0 damage.

[fjlip]

I saw the APS, but what is the third, rotors threshing some? At 11mm the 9600 would leave kernels in heads. If no damage they have it figured out. Wonder why their cleaning area is so low loss?
9870 Rotor 700, concave 25, fan 800, chaffer unchanged, sieve 4, in canola. How is Claas?
Is the straw chopped spread fine like a rotary?

[foragefarmer]

Klaus

"0 whitecaps and 0 damage."

Looking at your attached sample, are those not "White Caps" in the top left hand corner of your sample?