Irony

[Oliver88]

This is great news if southern Manitoba transitions to soybeans.

Could someone list the savings on inputs for soybeans vs canola?

[seabass]

Oliver. Minimal fert costs are the big one.

[rockpile]

Every time I see a thread like this, I'm reminded of Steely Dan's hit 'Do it Again'!

[bgmb]

This is great news if southern Manitoba transitions to soybeans.

Could someone list the savings on inputs for soybeans vs canola?

Seed, treatment and innoculant is $20/ac more for beams. Chemical is about 20 less for beans. Fertilizer is about 50 cheaper for beans

[freewheat]

Anyone growing non gmo beans? If you could save your own seed, could you not save a pile of money?

More ppl should be like me, and grow canola that you can keep!

[Oliver88]

Seed, treatment and innoculant is $20/ac more for beams. Chemical is about 20 less for beans. Fertilizer is about 50 cheaper for beans

Thanks.
Price for soybeans appears to be approximately $1/bushel higher to for Southern MB.
If soybean yield is equal or greater it is a no brainer.

[tweety]

Braveheart, FYI canola growers fund canola council

And the money the canola industry "levies" to the council is a line item in your basis that you pay for.

[Braveheart]

You're probably right. Who knows? And yes, the Grower organizations do help fund the Council. But, without promotion of the industry, how can it grow demand? For example, talking soybeans again, the check off for soybeans in the US funds their soybean associations and they are very active at promoting soy use and growing demand. In fact, I wouldn't doubt that some of our success with marketing soybeans here is piggy backing off of their efforts.

[bgmb]

You're probably right. Who knows? And yes, the Grower organizations do help fund the Council. But, without promotion of the industry, how can it grow demand? For example, talking soybeans again, the check off for soybeans in the US funds their soybean associations and they are very active at promoting soy use and growing demand. In fact, I wouldn't doubt that some of our success with marketing soybeans here is piggy backing off of their efforts.

So are we supposed to pay canola council to push canola and the soy groups to push soy. Kind of like pissing your pants to keep your ass warm. Let the richardsons and the viterras look after promoting the products they have for sale to end users and we can grow what ever is in demand be it soy, canola sunflower.....

[MBgrower]

Soy bids in rrv were as high as 11.70 off the combine last week. Soy inputs : $70 to 100 per acre for seed with treatment, and call it 10 bucks an acre inoculant, and then two in crop passes of roundup at .6L per acre. No fertilizer applied. Soy dont respond well to phos a time of seeding. Generally farmers here have boosted phosphate in the previous crops so that there is still some left over.

Seeding them is just like wheat, use an airseeder, or drill, or to cut down on seed cost, use a corn planter on 15 or 22 inch rows, some guys plant on 30" and claim no yield difference vs narrow rows.

Harvesting soys are a dream, simple flexheader with airreel is all you need. And no worries about weathering or shelling out. The guys who experimented with peas here this year, were unfortunately reminded why we quit growing them here 25 years ago.... drowned out, diseased, and matted to the ground. Soybeans just sucked up all that moisture and podded very well.

In the 15+ years of growing soys, ive never used fungicide, and only sprayed borders for hoppers and spider mites once. Canola gets the works every year.

[Braveheart]

Bgmb, you don't have to do anything. Ask for your levy back. No one is forcing you to participate. If you want to leave industry development solely in the hands of commercials, fine. That's your choice.

[bgmb]

[QUOTE=Braveheart;325327]Bgmb, you don't have to do anything. Ask for your levy back. No one is forcing you to participate. If you want to leave industry development solely in the hands of commercials, fine. That's your choice.[/QU


Haven't done that yet, but good to have that option. Pleasantly surprised to see them voicing some concerns over the bayer monsanto deal. Grower groups can be good but they can also waste a shit load of money on shit that does nothing for growers. Pulse growers is great Canola has work to do IMO.

Long story short thank goodness for soy, gonna keep the canola industry honest.

[MBgrower]

I do support the soybean levy, as money is going into producing better better soy varieties, agronomy research etc.we have made great advances in finding varieties suited for s.mb. canola check off dollars... well we know where they dont go.