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    #25
    My concern would be, is grain getting downgraded because there are no "guidelines" as to what is acceptable. Just hearsay. Sell direct?

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    These "screenings" were sold to a feed mill for $3.50 a bushel ($3.25 net to me because the Mill and I shared freight costs). This was the year our durum was graded commercial salvage. Clean-out was fairly high.

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    Cleaned sample.

    Some of the stuff I read says milling can reduce DON levels by as much as 50% because most of the mycotoxin is on the bran. So white flour and semolina will have less DON than the whole grains they're milled from.

    an older guideline from NDSU, Sept 2005 (maybe tolerances have tighten or relaxed in certain categories)

    1 ppm

    Finished wheat products, such as flour, bran
    and germ, that potentially may be consumed by
    humans. The FDA does not set an advisory level
    for raw grain intended for milling because normal
    manufacturing practices and additional technology
    available to millers can substantially reduce DON
    levels in the finished wheat product. However,
    individual millers or food industries may have
    stricter requirements than 1 ppm.


    10 ppm

    Grains and byproducts destined for ruminating
    beef and feedlot cattle older than 4 months and
    for poultry, providing that these ingredients don’t
    exceed 50 percent of the diet

    5 ppm

    Grains and grain byproducts destined for swine,
    providing that these ingredients don’t exceed 20
    percent of the diet

    5 ppm

    Grains and grain byproducts destined for all other
    animals, providing that these ingredients don’t
    exceed 40 percent of the diet

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      #26
      Originally posted by bucket View Post
      Maybe what the cgc needs is some compliance officer with teeth?
      We had what was called The Office Of Assistant Commissioners. Anyone that is not familiar with what/who that was I would encourage you read this article. Please disregard author, if it bothers you, but it explains mandate and value of office very well.

      http://www.nfu.ca/publications/assistant-commissioner-role-misunderstood-government

      In that article it refers to the Compas review, for those that aren't familiar with that it can be found on web at: http://www.agr.gc.ca/info/consult/cgc-ccg/pdf/compas_cgc-ccg_e.pdf.

      A long and boring read but starting on page 39 under Sec 4.0 Talks about the recommendation of a Grain Farmers Advocacy Board to replace the 6 Ass't Commissioners.

      The Office Of Assistant Commissioners was never filled nor was the Grain Farmers Advocacy Office established. Even tho it was clearly recommended and felt needed by the review, that was requested by the Gov't itself.

      If this office had been established it could have been given power to investigate concerns of the whole grain industry from Grading/dockage disputes, to contract issues, right to Rail trans issues, on behalf of grain producers. We would have a venue to voice our issues and concerns without having to resort to social media.

      Another good read for those not familiar with the history, mandate and value of the CGC is an official history book by J. Blanchard - A history of the Canadian Grain Commission.

      http://www.ourroots.ca/toc.aspx?id=2538&qryID=7b5a3476-6f58-4a22-b487-83a941d19a0b

      I would be asking powers to be and all concerned to please follow through with The Compas Review (2004) recommendations and establish This Grain Farmers Advocacy Office.

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        #27
        Had a chat with marketer from USA today and was confirmed that 2ppm was max tolerance for milling same as Canada I believe.

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          #28
          Johston's has actual feed durum sales quoted at $3.50/bu. (unknown vomi levels)... Some local terminals are throwing around prices of about $2.50 for high vomi durum.... I guess we know where to go....if we have to.

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            #29
            Min requirement on HVK is 80 percent on no 1 Durum .5 Fuz. Mine comes in .6 Fuz 81 HVK automatically #3 f'ing joke. Especially since theres a $2 spread betw 2 and 3.
            Last edited by biglentil; Oct 5, 2016, 14:16.

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              #30
              I'm sure they'll "bend" the rules for that grain. Even if they don't----it won't get sold to the end user as a three!

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                #31
                CGC changed mildew grading on all wheats today. Durum included.

                Won't help with the fus issues unfortunately.

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                  #32
                  Lowered the tolerances?

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                    Lowered the tolerances?
                    Hm. Increased. What was a 2red is now a 1red. 3red is a 2red. Etc. Etc.

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                      CGC changed mildew grading on all wheats today. Durum included.

                      Won't help with the fus issues unfortunately.
                      Got link to communication?

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                        Got link to communication?
                        I don't, no. Got it in an email. Should be up on the CGC site somewhere. Or will be soon.

                        I'll have a peak when I have a minute.

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                          I don't, no. Got it in an email. Should be up on the CGC site somewhere. Or will be soon.

                          I'll have a peak when I have a minute.
                          Ya I looked didn't see it. So no guides or standards out yet? Seems early for changes ussually end of Nov.

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