Vomitoxin/DON testing. (Do not read this if you are offended by profanity)

[Blaithin]

CGC changed mildew grading on all wheats today. Durum included.

Won't help with the fus issues unfortunately.

[farmaholic]

Lowered the tolerances?

[Blaithin]

Lowered the tolerances?

Hm. Increased. What was a 2red is now a 1red. 3red is a 2red. Etc. Etc.

[wmoebis]

CGC changed mildew grading on all wheats today. Durum included.

Won't help with the fus issues unfortunately.

Got link to communication?

[Blaithin]

Got link to communication?

I don't, no. Got it in an email. Should be up on the CGC site somewhere. Or will be soon.

I'll have a peak when I have a minute.

[wmoebis]

I don't, no. Got it in an email. Should be up on the CGC site somewhere. Or will be soon.

I'll have a peak when I have a minute.

Ya I looked didn't see it. So no guides or standards out yet? Seems early for changes ussually end of Nov.

[farmaholic]

If it is true it just goes to show how ridiculous grain grading is. Just think of all the tonnes of grain that get bought for less than what its worth. This same crock of shit is probably true for fusarium/vomitoxin down grading. I will check in later as well for a link to the announcement.

Today I got a text that said they will be able to buy all my red spring that was "graded" a two for a one! Am I grateful? You bet! Am I sick and tired of the games? You can't imagine. Now to patiently wait for the prices to increase to a reasonable value. Nice to see the rise in Minni wheat lately.

[Blaithin]

Somehow I forsaw grumbling about it LOL

It's my understanding that trials and tests have shown mildew has less effect on milling properties of wheat than previously thought, ergo the changes.

The CGC is usually running tests of one sort or another, just like the CFIA, so maybe one day fus and vomi levels will be lowered. If they may be raised. Who knows.

[wmoebis]

Somehow I forsaw grumbling about it LOL

It's my understanding that trials and tests have shown mildew has less effect on milling properties of wheat than previously thought, ergo the changes.

The CGC is usually running tests of one sort or another, just like the CFIA, so maybe one day fus and vomi levels will be lowered. If they may be raised. Who knows.

Juat got a note from USA merchant saying mills are backing off somewhat on Vomi.

[wmoebis]

Juat got a note from USA merchant saying mills are backing off somewhat on Vomi.

Now if we juat had a transparent system so we knew what Co's were selling into what markets.

[Blaithin]

Now if we juat had a transparent system so we knew what Co's were selling into what markets.

I don't think the companies even know where they're selling too half the time!!

[farmaholic]

...now now Blaithin.....I'm just making a point.

[Blaithin]

...now now Blaithin.....I'm just making a point.

I know. Just the nature of the beast.

They change anything one way and people grumble now their 2s are 3s. Change it the other way and now their 3s for the last 10 yrs should've been 2s!

But at least they change when research shows. Instead of just being concrete numbers based on outdated data.

[Graincleaner]

My concern would be, is grain getting downgraded because there are no "guidelines" as to what is acceptable. Just hearsay. Sell direct?

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These "screenings" were sold to a feed mill for $3.50 a bushel ($3.25 net to me because the Mill and I shared freight costs). This was the year our durum was graded commercial salvage. Clean-out was fairly high.

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Cleaned sample.

Some of the stuff I read says milling can reduce DON levels by as much as 50% because most of the mycotoxin is on the bran. So white flour and semolina will have less DON than the whole grains they're milled from.

an older guideline from NDSU, Sept 2005 (maybe tolerances have tighten or relaxed in certain categories)

1 ppm

Finished wheat products, such as flour, bran
and germ, that potentially may be consumed by
humans. The FDA does not set an advisory level
for raw grain intended for milling because normal
manufacturing practices and additional technology
available to millers can substantially reduce DON
levels in the finished wheat product. However,
individual millers or food industries may have
stricter requirements than 1 ppm.


10 ppm

Grains and byproducts destined for ruminating
beef and feedlot cattle older than 4 months and
for poultry, providing that these ingredients don’t
exceed 50 percent of the diet

5 ppm

Grains and grain byproducts destined for swine,
providing that these ingredients don’t exceed 20
percent of the diet

5 ppm

Grains and grain byproducts destined for all other
animals, providing that these ingredients don’t
exceed 40 percent of the diet

Have you seen the video:https://youtu.be/-6sVGyfjn64?list=PL1ah518U450tTjrp6tL1KHw4550uB9xQY
What are your thoughts?

[sumdumguy]

Min requirement on HVK is 80 percent on no 1 Durum .5 Fuz. Mine comes in .6 Fuz 81 HVK automatically #3 f'ing joke. Especially since theres a $2 spread betw 2 and 3.

A little blending of 2017 durum should fix that problem. 😁