So grass Explain why we have a Carbon Tax Coming!

[farmaholic]

Just an observation. This new generation "saves" nothing. Throw away society. (MAYBE) Recycle stuff that might leave a bigger environmental footprint than simply burning it or sending it to a landfill.

Their grandparents knew "want".
Their parents new "want" less.
They saved stuff that items/food were bought in. Food containers, bags, jars. Oil pails.
There was a "depression" mentality(and I don't mean mental health) there was little to be had so when you got something you valued it. The further we get away from that time the less value we place on "disposable" items.
Junior gets driven in an air conditioned vehicle to the artificial ice hockey rink in the heat of summer.
How many lights are left on in city office buildings during the night...when no one is there.
Oneoff mentions flare gas being simply burned off.
4, 5 or 6 trucks from the same company showing up at a work site with one person in them.... all idling away in winter, or summer "keeping the cab cool".
Driving grain past 3 terminals that have either been mothballed or past active ones for "a better deal".

Is there waste..... think?

[grassfarmer]

Tweety has really said what needs to be said. A friend of a friend posted the comments below on Facebook in response to a young photographer who had posted some of her images there. I have reproduced a few of her images. Think about this over Thanksgiving SF3 and decide whether you have "done enough".

"I have a feeling that we are not particularly comfortable at examining how our privilege inoculates us and, especially, at examining the possibilities of down-sizing our personal "lifestyles" in an at least symbolic effort to come closer to a world-average level of materialism."

[tweety]

Thanks for posting those Grassy. It certainly makes me think anew about Thanksgiving.

[checking]

Not even remotely true, tweety if you think beyond our tiny world of energy potential.

A space shuttle bay of 25 tonnes of helium 3 contains enough energy to electrify the US for 1 full year. Its value is $3 billion/tonne, and can be extracted from moon dust.

Ever wonder why countries want to get back to the moon, but I see a gas farmer objection in that it would destroy the moon's environment, so it has to be left in the moon soil.

[farmaholic]

We all know those pictures are hard to look at. But no body likes their bags being packed for them for a guilt trip someone else is sending them on.

You think most of us don't know how ****ing good we have it? Everyday! I may do the most pissing and moaning on this site, whine and complain, but it will never be about the lack of " how good I have it" but the bullshit environment I do business in! Never go to bed hungry unless I "choose" to. And when I do go to bed it is a comfortable place to lay. I am warm in the winter and if I want to be, cool in the summer. For Christ's sake...I am smart enough to know I have it better than my parents and A LOT better than my grandparents.
Born into the First World is not a crime. There is opportunity here where there is absolutely none in some other parts of the world. Does this somehow make us "bad"?

[binthere]

very heart wrenching. we should all feel shame that in this day and age atrocities of this kind or any other still occur. wise words spoken by a past president could be applied here with slight alteration. ask not what our world can do for us but what we could do for this world.

[biglentil]

Don't worry everyone Bill Gate's the biggest philanthropist on earth has the solution.

1st he does a great job of outlining the problems of exponential growth of our population and consumption, the challenges of alternative energy. Then he states
"If we do a really good job with vaccines, health care and reproductive services we can reduce the world population by 10% to 15%"-Bill Gates at Ted Talks to a packed auditorium. This is the link to the youtube video everyone should watch:

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DJaF-fq2Zn7I&ved=0ahUKEwj-3LqYr87PAhUM4YMKHbF5CZAQtwIIGzAA&usg=AFQjCNFL7zxZ1 AAJyVY6_S1wIzeBfdTfXg&sig2=4dchlMV2oGAd5b3cADYrtQ

[fjlip]

Re the pictures... heard a correct assessment of that situation from a Aide worker that spent time in the poorest places....THEY HAVE TOO MANY CHILDREN FOR THE AVAILABLE FOOD SUPPLY, simple as that! Their own fault and YES there is a solution...we all know the answer.
Same answer to all poor even in Canada...Kids when you can afford to raise them properly.

[seabass]

Amen fjlip!

[tweety]

And here we have too much food for the number of children. Problems everywhere.