SummerFallow 25% in 2017 so all the ag parasites suffer

[riders2010]

Are all of you really wet or not?
Our area will not be seeding at all next year we are already at a 60 to 40
Chance of not. Ditches are full of water snow in swaths the water table is above ground.

[Richard5]

How do you cash flow machinery payments and land mortgage payments with 25% of your land not working for you?
Summer fallow costs at least $100.00 per acre not calculating wind and water erosion. Then you have to consider degredation of the soil you have so carefully built in your farming career. All this for a chance at better prices? It does not sound logical.
With $100.00/acre You make about an extra 3-4 passes of the sprayer to protect your investment in a growing season. Fungicide X2 , micronutrients, top dress a little more fertilizer at the right time and then its all Guns n' Roses.
Or else, expand your seeded acres by 25% with the same set of machinery. That seems to be the dominant trend.

Very easy Hobby, adjust that part of your business that's out if line

[cuban_assassin]

Okay so if you don't like smf then look at alternate crops or just reduce what you put into your crop. The wet falls financial cost needs to be passed on throughout the industry not just felt by farmers. There are too many people involved with ag that get paid very well to provide a product or service to the primary producer who have no accountability. They sell sell sell and don't give a shit! Well maybe its time they felt the pinch a little!! Its time all these so called ag experts are held to account!!!

[Guest]

Great idea but if anyone wants land back around the quill lakes (me included) you can't have summerfallow. Need to grow a forage crop or something that keeps snow and moisture on the land

how are the quill lakes doing with all this rain ? is there a point where they stop getting bigger and excess can get away ?

[blackpowder]

Completely illogical premise.

[agchat]

Sorry Blackpowder disagree. Like I posted about a month ago, until farmers wake up and start to understand about supply and demand, then all you can do is wait for a major disaster somewhere before prices get to where they should be. Just hope like **** the disaster is not here, or you have nothing to cash in on anyway.

[Guest]

Sorry Blackpowder disagree. Like I posted about a month ago, until farmers wake up and start to understand about supply and demand, then all you can do is wait for a major disaster somewhere before prices get to where they should be. Just hope like **** the disaster is not here, or you have nothing to cash in on anyway.

and when the disaster is "here" you get a real eye opener like we did ! it can happen anywhere and will

[farmaholic]

Could you imagine the pain in the Ag Industry if it had the same "reset" that the Oil Industry had. All the lay-offs. All the waste and fat trimmed, all the dead-weight that wasn't adding any value or earning their keep...gone! All the "inefficient producers" forced out of business.

Wouldn't it be nice to see others in the chain get "lean" for a change.

Over producing ourselves into profitability is nonsensical. I have no formal post secondary education or business education....but even with the simplest laws of supply and demand, over production would dictate a self defeating act. But we continue to strive..... but the irony is we never know...." the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry!!!!!"

For the Producer to have some more bearing on prices we need the market to pull our "commodities"....not us pushing it on the market. "Dumping" grain isn't marketing....its cheapening it for everyone.

If you think you can slay the Giants on your own, you will be worn down before you even make a mark. But unified.....aw-forget it, it will never happen.

So instead of getting rewarded for doing a good job (with Mother Nature's "blessing").....we are penalized and think doing less will somehow be our salvation. Not saying it wouldn't work but to me seems kind of counter intuitive....but lets not forget we're talking about farming. Where alot of simple laws that apply to others don't apply to us.

Like hobby said....have your head read!

[blackpowder]

Farmers are fascinating. In 30 seconds flat you can tell how much term debt they have.

In what place and time in history did a unilateral and voluntary cohesion of completely solitary entities come about without an all encompassing pressure.

Stop being naive or some sob will start rewinding the socio economic experience we just got rid of. The (_ _ _).

[Bootances]

This would work except for one thing, they own you.

[farmaholic]

Which one?
AWP, Alberta Wheat Pool
SWP, Saskatchewan Wheat Pool
MWP, Manitoba Wheat Pool
UGG, United Grain Growers

[oneoff]

There is and will be a rock bottom. And we will get there.

We are all influenced by the lowest price sellers. In fact they set the market. If they aren't doing well...then no one else has a chance to do much better following (or taking their lead.).

Assuming all the risks and promising end product months or years ahead covers a good chunk of demand...and provides all the time needed to ordinarily line up the remainder (in advance) at the current lowest price possible.

Refuse to join the crowd and you will sit on the sidelines...with no space in the lineup if you don't participate in the contracting system.

Majority either like it...OR I STRONGLY SUSPECT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER CHOICE.