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    #13
    To answer one of mallee's questions in his opening post - no if Clinton gets in that doesn't mean the democrats automatically have the lower house (House of Representatives). Depending on the outcome it's possible and has happened before that the president is from one party and both the House and the Senate have the majority of their members from the other party. The mid-term elections can often create this situation if the political winds change. As well, there is no party discipline or "whips" that force people from the majority party to vote with their party. Local considerations can lead to the divergence in voting. The trade-off is fixed terms so just because the majority party may lose a critical vote a a general election isn't automatically the result, and may be partly the reason they only have two parties instead of three or more like in our parliamentary systems.

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      #14
      Clinton blowing her lead?

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        #15
        thanks oldjim still seemingly confused about how american system works.

        we get it nightly almost guess one of the stories lately is phillipine president seem to have told obama to take a hike in no uncertain terms.

        guess a minnow in world politics but maybe phillipines is strategic military wise for usa

        probably wrong here with this comment but seems trump is almost i said almost anti war, look after our own backyard first.

        met a guy on a ranch in my travels in montana and he was a frontline marksman in ww1 and 2 meaning he was a sniper. Anyway his view was america basically has never finished a war it started always need help meaning aussies canadians british he was quite scathing made me ponder.

        ps was in early 1980s

        A trump type person would never get elected in canada and australia weve had a few similar types almost get in, but australia has a preferencial voting system which means party with most votes nearly always doesnt get in. 2nd even third preference votes count importantly. Plus we have compulsary voting which history has shown favours left leaning socialist parties.

        Green parties here in australia have fallen out of favour all of a sudden we realize our renewable energy is ultra expensive, our water is most expensive in the world and price of alot of basic staples has increasedat a alarming rate. Farmers with dams on there farms which catch excess rain run off are actually taxed on it due to fact it has run into creeks etc and out to the ocean. All green policys from way back.

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          #16
          Comforting to hear the green pendulum has swung back. In Oz at least.

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            #17
            Just talked to a friend with sister in Caifornia, says many of her friends may not vote.
            Am reminded of the saying that it is those who show up who make policy.
            Still surprised at amount of sympathy from so many acquaintances for anti-trade, anti-globalization sentiment.

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              #18
              Trump appears to be surging back in the polls geez he cant can he???

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                #19
                Well, they've had Obama for 8 years and now we have Trudeau 2.0 (aka PM Selfie) so, yes, anything's possible.

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