For grassfarmer ....dairy industry

[bucket]

"""""Agriculture Minister Lawrence MacAulay is at the Canadian Agriculture Museum in Ottawa to announce an assistance package for the dairy sector.

The Canada-EU trade agreement that may come into force provisionally next year will allow imports to displace up to four per cent of the domestic cheese market.

The Liberal government has pledged transition assistance to help both farmers and processors adjust to the new foreign competition. CBC News is livestreaming the announcement starting at 10 a.m. ET.

The package set to be unveiled is not expected to include lump sum compensation for the industry in anticipation of lost income.

Because the domestic cheese market is growing, the government isn't certain the sector would necessarily suffer losses per se — but future growth in the market may be lost to the new imports, particularly European specialty cheeses.""""""



The ink isn't dry on Trudeau's signature.....meanwhile guys with crop in the field are told to find your own way out of the mess....a really in tune ag minister....wonder who is pulling his strings....his chief of staff has been whispering in his ear.

[bgmb]

Why do you think the dairy farmers are quiet now. They k ow Trudeau has their back. This will be a money maker for dairy. Dairy has to compete a little tiny bit poor dairy let's give them a big compensation package. Almost like kids on an allowance and a bigger kid stole a bit of their lunch money.

[bucket]

It's as sickening as the money blown on bombardier.....what's the common thread.....province of origin.....

[ajl]

Worst problem with SM farmers is that they think they are businessmen. SM farmers in Canuckistan are just bureaucrats joined at the hip to government. Why is Canada pursuing free trade agreements anyways when the only thing we export is oil to the US as that is where the pipelines go? Okay some grain as well but really nothing else.

[bgmb]

Worst problem with SM farmers is that they think they are businessmen. SM farmers in Canuckistan are just bureaucrats joined at the hip to government. Why is Canada pursuing free trade agreements anyways when the only thing we export is oil to the US as that is where the pipelines go? Okay some grain as well but really nothing else.

I agree, basically takes no business talent to make a wage dairy farming on a very small scale. The top dairy farmers get very wealthy. Many dairy and chicken and chicken farmers are business men and they know and cherish the cash cow they have. I am pretty certain p and h still has some big chicken operations in eastern Canada.

[Hopalong]

All of our resource industries are dependent on exports and trade, well maybe not supply management agriculture.
Ontario and Quebec betting more on technology and entertainment but also have major stakes in forestry, mining and other industries
High time for federal government to deal with negative trade aspect of supply management as it did with that of state grain trading entity.

[bucket]

As much disdain I had for the cwb and SM ....but the implementation of the open market was poorly done on the grain side.....

[foragefarmer]

Supply management farmers stick to together and have a voice, while grain farmers disagree with each other over everything and have no voice. So who's fault that, Agriville is a prime example.

As for the comment a monkey could run a dairy, many of them are hard working family farms and work 24/7, 365 days a year. Good for them they deserve a good pay cheque, would you like them to go bankrupt like so many American dairy farmer's, what good is that for rural Canada?

[grassfarmer]

The package announced seems to be $350 million with $100 million going to processors and $250 million in a fund available to farmers for updating equipment etc.
Quite the reduction from the $4.3 billion dollars promised by the Harper Government so you can't really say this is a Trudeau idea. Harper likely had to promise that much to sway ON/QUE MPs to vote for it.
Wouldn't like to say if its fair or adequate or not but the $250 million for all dairy farmers in Canada is comparable to the net crop insurance payouts to SK farmers in 2011 of $316 million and the MB payout of $221 million.

Maybe this could be considered a similar program to the Western Grain Transition Payments that were what @$1.6 billion?

[bucket]

Forage and others


I won't dispute how hard dairy farmers work...it just seems there is inequality as to how they are protected compared to grain farmers or cattle guys...

[bgmb]

Forage and others


I won't dispute how hard dairy farmers work...it just seems there is inequality as to how they are protected compared to grain farmers or cattle guys...

Not saying they dont work, But they are basically guaranteed a profit and don't really have to worry about marketing or assume any risk that goes with marketing. They probably work as hard as anyone. All I meant with the Monkey comment was that it is very to make easy money farming with supply management vs. grain, cattle or hog farming.

[bgmb]

http://www.parrishandheimbecker.com/P&H%20Brochure%20100th%20Anniversary%20(2009)%20we b%20version.pdf

Appears P and H has extensive poultry operations. Not picking on P and H but there a lots of these massive investor owned poultry operations that aren't "lifestyle" farms so why would consumers subsidize them. Nothing against big farms, just saying supply mgmt has run its course time for a revamp

[foragefarmer]

Why does it bother so many on here to see other farmers making a good living, because as far as I see that's what it boils down to. What does it really matter other wise. The majority of them are hard working family farms. I don't hear urban consumers complaining about SM to costly, and besides do you think for one second that prices in the grocery stores are going to drop once imports come in. When grain prices went down did grocery prices drop, has beef prices drop since cattle prices have dropped. No to both. Worry about what your doing as a farmer not what SM farmers are doing and getting!

If the price of chicken, eggs and dairy are costing you to much, produce your own. Your grandparents and parents did it, nobody stopping you!

Besides you probably have neighbors in SM do you talk to them about your thought on SM face to face, or only here on Agriville?

[bgmb]

I don't suggest we pull the pin tomorrow with out compensation but a huge package for dairy because of potentially allowing up to 4% cheese imports wow brutal

[bgmb]

Basically I am saying why this huge payment to a sector full of multimillionaires who didn't even have a bad year? I think we all know the answer