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    #13
    Interest rates are going higher for borrowers and lower for savers. On the savings side rates will go negative in a last ditch attempt to keep good ship canuckistan from going down. On the borrowing side rates will go higher as good debt has to subsidize bad and credit quality is deteriorating,

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      #14
      $1 trillion bond value wiped out last week on Trump economic plans. Strap-in, this is going to get interesting.

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/government-bond-sell-off-continues-on-trumps-economic-plans-1479114743

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        #15
        Two % increase would make real estate prices more realistic again.
        Its pretty obvious rates are too low when a couple in there 20's think its normal to purchase a new "starter" house in Saskatoon for 500-600k.

        Machinery dealers, all auto dealers (especially luxury vehicles) and real estate agents will lose out big time with an increase.

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          #16
          Rates should go up, but can't go up.

          If the U.S. forces rates up purely on 'Make America Great Again' indebted infrastructure spending, this is a disaster in-the-making.

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            #17
            Yes its not about what you think in a perfect world should be it s a question of
            what is good for the situation we currently have.
            The only reason our economies haven't fallen flat and output of every good including agriculture
            products have not crashed is the interest rate.
            The solution is to get people out of debt first, but the rich are pissed because they want to make more on
            their money off people that cant afford it.
            Trumps moves will cause interest rates to rise and all the rich will benefit big time, the middle class will be clobbered.

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              #18
              The spiking USD is now an economic trainwreck in-the-making. Gold, crude oil, loonie, grains all down as a result today.

              U.S. exports/manufacturing now in crisis. Now raise interest rates to-boot . . . .

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                #19
                Why are our economies going to fall flat? Why can't an economy so rich in resources sustain itself as it did in the past? Because we have out- sourced our jobs, factories have shut, production has fallen, jobs have disappeared.

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                  #20
                  Don't matter how rich in resources you are: you need to have customers that can afford to buy them. After this disaster harvest, we will be buying as little as possible.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by ajl View Post
                    Don't matter how rich in resources you are: you need to have customers that can afford to buy them. After this disaster harvest, we will be buying as little as possible.
                    totally agree . . . . and should tensions between the U.S. and China heat-up, trade will be the victim.

                    Demand is king in the commodity world.

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                      #22
                      Without sound money you cannot have a sound economy simple as that. At some point in time the Piper will come like a thief in the night. After all sustained growth is impossible in a finite world.

                      Another empty threat by the fed.
                      Last edited by biglentil; Nov 14, 2016, 11:00.

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                        #23
                        It begins . . . China issues trade warning to Trump

                        http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/14/apple-iphones-could-be-hit-if-trump-imposes-a-45-percent-tariff-on-china-exports-beijing-warns.html

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                          #24
                          Trump will screw everybody Bigly. He does not have a clue what to do . He once said he would renegotiate the debt, in other words go bankrupt , just as he has done 3 times.

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