Our Pm has a plan and its a Bad Bad Plan!

[tweety]

Chucky, How does paying a carbon tax reduce carbon emissions?

[grassfarmer]

Chucky, How does paying a carbon tax reduce carbon emissions?

It's a punitive tax, like a tobacco tax - a tax imposed to discourage a behaviour.

[checking]

You mean like keeping yourself warm over the winter, gasfarmer.

How many of your polluting cattle are you going to give up? You're correct. You do need a punitive tax imposed on you to discourage having an income.

[SASKFARMER3]

I guess as a farmer I should of left the crop out and not dried it. Or he'll let's not seed a crop so we can save the planet. Oh people would starve! Yea farmers in canada as city people would buy grain and livestock from our competitor the USA china Russia or South America.
Really it's just a tax my ass.

[grassfarmer]

Some farmers around here are needing the discouragement of a carbon tax. Neighbours have had thousands of HP burning diesel for 2 weeks cutting trees, burying them in a huge excavated hole then burning them - all to get another 20 acres of poor soil into cultivation.

The world needs more of my cows Checking not less, the type of agriculture we are engaged in is the only way the world can reduce C02 emissions to pre-industrial age levels.

[sumdumguy]

Some farmers around here are needing the discouragement of a carbon tax. Neighbours have had thousands of HP burning diesel for 2 weeks cutting trees, burying them in a huge excavated hole then burning them - all to get another 20 acres of poor soil into cultivation.

The world needs more of my cows Checking not less, the type of agriculture we are engaged in is the only way the world can reduce C02 emissions to pre-industrial age levels.

Except we don't live in the pre-industrial age. Did you know that?

[fjlip]

Wall will try all the way to Supreme court to block this BS/LIES/TAX.

And IF we fail and the army forces Sk to pay, I f*cking hope it still warms the hell up because we are 8 months winter, and along with Russia should have never gone with the rest of the scared world!
Warm =life/plants/ animals, COLD = DEATH, ICE, NOTHING growing! Which do you choose?

[checking]

No,no, no.

The world needs less animal based protein because it is a hog (pun intended) on its greenhouse gas emissions to produce that kg of meat compared to the O2 positives of plant based protein.

Your means of livelihood will never help to return CO2 levels to the pre-industrial age. Some of your environmental friends might even say that you have no right to exist because of your destructive behavior.

It is fairly easy to understand why you see advantages for yourself in a carbon tax because you have the means to pass those taxes onto your customers. (That's one more labeling item on your packages of meat that you should make them aware of.) It has nothing to do with stopping sea level rises.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Some farmers around here are needing the discouragement of a carbon tax. Neighbours have had thousands of HP burning diesel for 2 weeks cutting trees, burying them in a huge excavated hole then burning them - all to get another 20 acres of poor soil into cultivation.

The world needs more of my cows Checking not less, the type of agriculture we are engaged in is the only way the world can reduce C02 emissions to pre-industrial age levels.

Be careful what you wish for grassfarmer, returning CO2 to pre-industrial age levels will have significant negative effect on crop/grass yields and drought tolerance. While the debate rages on regarding the possible greenhouse effect and what the net effect might be, whether positive or negative, the fact that plants perform better with elevated CO2 levels is provable and well documented.

[Braveheart]

I would prefer incentives for carbon sequestration vs tax/penalization approach. There is a lot of marginal or wasteland that could have trees planted. Perennial forage is another carbon sink. Rebates for geothermal, solar panels, etc. It seems that Chuckles and Mustard would prefer the heavy hand of government penalties like the Trudeau Libs. Next step will likely be a Gulag to exile SF3 and any other climate change deniers to.

[grassfarmer]

No,no, no.

The world needs less animal based protein because it is a hog (pun intended) on its greenhouse gas emissions to produce that kg of meat compared to the O2 positives of plant based protein.

Ah, so that's why god told Joseph to built the pyramids to store grain in, lol!

Be careful what you wish for grassfarmer, returning CO2 to pre-industrial age levels will have significant negative effect on crop/grass yields and drought tolerance. While the debate rages on regarding the possible greenhouse effect and what the net effect might be, whether positive or negative, the fact that plants perform better with elevated CO2 levels is provable and well documented.

Not according to the New Scientist.
[URL="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11655-climate-myths-higher-co2-levels-will-boost-plant-growth-and-food-production/"]http://https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11655-climate-myths-higher-co2-levels-will-boost-plant-growth-and-food-production/[/URL]

I would prefer incentives for carbon sequestration vs tax/penalization approach. There is a lot of marginal or wasteland that could have trees planted.

For sure incentives are worth a look - but we've got to stop the people burning fossil fuel to turn marginal land and trees into more grain land in this day and age that just makes no sense.

[ajl]

Everybody thinks the others guys land is marginal land and should be taken out of production.