Our Pm has a plan and its a Bad Bad Plan!

[grassfarmer]

What a crock of horseshit. In our affluent society the cost is just absorbed and the use continues. No carbon emissions saved. You could make cigs 50 dollars a carton and most would still smoke.

Grow grass? Seriously? If a carbon tax pushes you over the break even point, auction sale time

That's because you haven't seen the cost set high enough to deter usage yet. If fuel doubled in price and the energy component of producing N fertilizer doubled emissions would be reduced. In reality the $50 ton carbon tax isn't going to cut it - more likely a $100-$200 value will be needed.

[tweety]

That's because you haven't seen the cost set high enough to deter usage yet. If fuel doubled in price and the energy component of producing N fertilizer doubled emissions would be reduced. In reality the $50 ton carbon tax isn't going to cut it - more likely a $100-$200 value will be needed.

You do realize what you are proposing is the absolute in wealth control. Making poorer people, and by poorer i mean 80% of Canada, completely unable to buy food, drive a vehicle, get to work.... The well off will always afford it. Just charge $100 a liter for fuel, then next to no carbon will be emitted and we all starve and freeze to death. All the while our neighbours across the line to the south have no carbon tax. Only you and the very rich will survive. Great plan.

You obviously have in no way thought this through. If you had, you wouldn't be posting such absolute stupidity.

[SASKFARMER3]

Tweety we don't agree on alot but this time you hit the nail on the head.

If the USA and Russia and China and Australia and South America and France all don't have a Carbon Tax and Canada does it will kill our economy literally drive a nail into it.

I ask grass what does that mean I am a bad polluter as I have had to dry about 30% of our grain this fall in November as October wasn't a great month to harvest. So I should of used wind and Air to dry it. Oh we didn't see the sun for some 21 days and no wind.

The rich like Leo and Al Gore etc will pretend to do stuff. Pay a fee to play yet sit on Private planes and ships telling us all what to do. Its a total crock of shit.

The poorest of poor in Canada will be hit hard and Us farmers will have to spend extra and get nothing in return. Compete against countries with none.

Wow its a no brainer yet some sing from the Liberal song sheet.

[sumdumguy]

In Marakesh, the UN yesterday scolded Canada and accused us of hypocracy because of Trudeau's exhuberant stance in Paris last year, then following up by approving an LNG plant in BC and suggesting a pipeline to move fossil fuels to market. Think Trudeau will figure it out now? I'd bee line out of there so fast with big letters on back of my jacket , "Piss Off, I've got a country to run!". How can't they see what the UN is trying to do? Sheep to slaughter.

[grassfarmer]

Folks, its going to be revenue neutral. Money doesn't leave the province, doesn't leave the country so it doesn't hinder our competitiveness against other countries.

[SASKFARMER3]

Yea if you believe that i have a nice ocean front land for sale in Arizona.

So i have to send $60,000 to the Gov and then get 59850. back minus admin charges.

yea like that will happen.

[sumdumguy]

There's only one answer to the unending dilemma for the West far as I can see.

[seabass]

Just like the gas tax goes to government and then it all ends up fixing our roads. Sunshine and rainbows. Can't fix stupid.

[Oliver88]

O'leary always mentions on BNN that for a $ of tax paid the first 30 cents will be wasted automatically in extra staff/perks or incompetence.
With the 70 cents remaining a lot of salaries, travel, accommodations, conferences will need to be paid.......the climate minister and 100 people don't fly to Morocco for a "climate conference/holiday" for free. (The Rebel.media is covering this trip to see what our tax dollars are getting us)

A carbon tax is a total waste that will not show a net benefit with GHG, temperatures or anything.
The only thing it will accomplish is hurt the Western Canadian economy and help ensure the voting power remains in the east......which is excactly what Trudeau wants. The west was getting too strong and a lot of politicians in the east couldn't stand the west being the engine of the Canadian economy.

[grassfarmer]

More proof we need a carbon tax....had Hydro here installing new power to a yard site this morning. A lift truck and a truck to place the poles which they were using. Two big new F350s they weren't using sat running for 2 hours because they are too lazy to switch them off. That's the culture of fossil fuel waste that has to be tackled in North America.