Our Pm has a plan and its a Bad Bad Plan!

[grassfarmer]

What the hell would u want 15% O.M for any way.

Why would you want money in the bank?

[tweety]

Really, a pulse can fix its own nitrogen? Fascinating.

[checking]

No, gasfarmer.

I do believe it's 11.4 kg of CO2 emitted / live kg of cattle, plus the methane belching.

I don't believe you will be given any credit for carbon sequestration since you are not at pre-industrial levels that buffalo accomplished. We will pay for every tonne we emit. There will be no free amount that should be allocated (amount emitted at the base year 2005).

Did you really extract an OM premium on the sale of your ranch in Alberta, or whatever the heck you did in Scotland?

[grassfarmer]

I'm not looking for carbon credits or to enhance sale value of a property due to enhanced OM levels. The reward of enhanced profitability every year I'm farming it is enough for me. Creating my own wealth on the farm while most in conventional agriculture complain of poverty due to the overpriced inputs they "have" to buy. Questioning why anyone would want 15.9% OM takes the biscuit though, that'll keep me chuckling for a while.

[tweety]

Grassfarmer, if you dig really deep eliminating most of the carbon emissions in cattle production, you can convince yourself you are a net sink. Just like biofuel is green, grassy so are you.

In reality, you are not, and neither is biofuel. And within a decade you will be replaced by synthetic meat production anyways, so days are numbered regardless.

Nitrous oxide is the real culprit, and that will change agriculture far more then any carbon issues that are being used merely for political gain at this time.

Red meat requires 28 times more land to produce than pork or chicken, 11 times more water and results in five times more climate-warming emissions. When compared to staples like potatoes, wheat, and rice, the impact of beef per calorie is even more extreme, requiring 160 times more land and producing 11 times more greenhouse gases.

So yes Grassy, convince yourself. The rest of us know better.

[seabass]

Try farming 15% OM land. U would be stuck all the time. Like seeding a manure pile every year. I bet your genius mind would be chuckling then.

[checking]

Perhaps a better question for gasfarmer would be, "why would any government listen to a rancher who has moved his operation so many times in his short career?" How is it possible that he could have any long term data on anything other than moving expenses?

[tweety]

Well its on the second page so the answers will be hard to come by