Interesting article - water and climate change

[canolacrazy]

i am sick of hearing about climate change. governments have been talking about it since the mid nineties, sending up apocalyptic arguments, yet the third world keeps building coal plants, business as usual. to hear Obama and trudeau talk, the threat is imminent and the earth's destruction is just around the corner. however during the u.s. election, hardly a word about this existential threat to humanity. am I to take it seriously? if I am supposed to, then governments should show leadership and jack up the taxes to the level needed to severely restrict carbon usage, or just forget it. $10/tonne in 2018 is laughable. with trump in the white house you can forget anything in the u.s. to limit carbon usage, in fact the opposite as he tries to fulfill his election promise to get America rolling again. without the u.s. in on it, it's over. accept it and let's get on with life.

[biglentil]

Cows are near the bottom of highest C02 emitters.

[biglentil]

Beef 30 times the C02 produced of lentils on the farthest right. Grass you are the pot calling the kettle black. I hope you pay 30 times the tax as the rest of us. No offense to other beef farmers C02 is a good thing. C02 tax is not.

[TSIPP]

about the only thing my land is good for is cows, and there is lots of water around.

[furrowtickler]

I think we need to take a breath here ...
Remember this is a scam , the truth will reveal its self in time .
None of us should have to pay this b/s tax , grain or cattle farm. We need to stop throwing knives either way.
A lot of people need to realize "global warming" was created as the bogey man to further push globalization by the U.N. It has been conveniently now changed to "climate change" to encompass a wider range events to fit their agenda . Google "agenda 21"
They are not even hiding this fact now .
Just look at Obama's speech just a day or so ago . He mentioned Globalization at least a dozen times . He has gone full retard on this .
Trump is going to hit the brakes on this globalist leftist agenda endorsed by the U.N. and the MSM. And now the leftist elite are screaming blue murder . They will try to throw Trump under the bus anyway possible now.
Meanwhile at home it is JT's ambition to be on the U.N. - think about what his end goal is, then rethink carbon tax .

[canolacrazy]

amen to that furrow. trump through a monkey wrench into the left's plans to have Hillary further the globablization agenda. a world without borders. now let's sit back and watch trump undo everything they've worked so hard for.

[sumdumguy]

I too am sick and tired of this climate change talk. Reading about the beating Canadians are taking at Marakesh absolutely confounds me. We sequester multiples of and carbon we produce. Tell them to "Piss Off"! Tell them to go and pick some other county's pocket, maybe try Russia😜

[Klause]

Actually grassy, I love beef. I respect our cattle producers. I think they are a vital part of the economy and of our supper


However, 90% of cattle producers don't harp on climate change continually... like you do... which is hypocritical really considering you're a net emitter of greenhouse gases.



Climate change... carbon tax... it's all a complete fraud.


BTW, the reason I mention pulses... they don't use much if any fertilizer (since they produce their own)... and they export 0 water, unlike any meat... at the end of the day, most consumption happens in cities where quite often waste water is sent to the ocean... thus exporting freshwater and turning it into saltwater.


Just ask our unlucky colleagues who farm in the interior of California about that.

[grassfarmer]

Bullshit grass when you pull water from a well it does not return to the well it evaporates. When your cow urinates it evaporates.

I can't believe that people involved in agriculture don't know what the water cycle is. Of course some evaporates - then it condenses and falls back as rain or snow. Other water soaks in and recharges the groundwater the well draws from. Here is a little graphic to help you understand.

Also grass saying that cows sequester c02 is laughable what the hell do you think they exhale?

The point is they need not be net emitters of CO2 as proven by this work in SK. Point #5 showing 17-39kgs of CO2 sequestered for every kg emitted by the cattle.


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[Klause]

Grassy my wife wrote her thesis on methane and co2 emissions from livestock...


Cattle emit more co2 they don't themselves "sink" any.


Where cattle shine is 2 places. 1 taking poor land that can't efficiently produce other proteins and make them produce nourishment (grasslands... semi arid areas etc.)


The 2nd is taking low value carbohydrates (barley grass corn etc) and turning them into dense high value proteins.


However this happens at a cost.


Of all three main types of meat protein chicken is the most efficient followed by pork and then beef... based on her research.



As far as the water cycle. Yes you're right. However deep ancient aquafirs do not replenish like you are suggesting. Also once water evaporates it is at the mercy of jets teams and other weather phenomenon which means there's a very low chance of it ever getting back to where it is needed or came from. Point in case why it's called exporting freshwater.