KAP and Carbon tax

[grassfarmer]

GRASS ! It's HOT and DRY, Cold and WET that go together! Most of us are sick and tired of COLD and WET!
YOU said yourself that GGD in COLD WET Alberta were HALF of MB!

And NO we could never change the climate....Taxes or GREEN....

I guess you didn't read the article I posted to start the thread "Water and Climate change". I thought someone living in the wet zone would have been at least curious as to possible explanations.

[foragefarmer]

15444


" Either that, or SK will begin negotiations to join the US "


Sure, and you can take all your debt with you when you supposedly join. You can also start paying for every hospital visit as well and when someone in your family needs an operation of some kind, or has a heart condition or needs cancer treatment you can fork it over big time. Please don't give me some B.S. about their insurance coverage, had cousin across the line who had insurance and still had to pay $5000.00 when her child was born, and to boot had twins so it came to $10,000.00.


When you send your children for post secondary education, maybe you would like to pay the $30-50 thousand a year.

Do you really think your paying that much more taxes than the USA if you are incorporated and paying 12% to make up the differences in health costs and education alone?

Why wait for Sask to join, go it alone and then you won't have to take the provincial debt with you!

[seabass]

Trouble is we are paying for all the dead heads in our system. I would gladly pay my own way as long as I'm not paying for u left wing looney tunes.

[15444]

15444


" Either that, or SK will begin negotiations to join the US "


Sure, and you can take all your debt with you when you supposedly join. You can also start paying for every hospital visit as well and when someone in your family needs an operation of some kind, or has a heart condition or needs cancer treatment you can fork it over big time. Please don't give me some B.S. about their insurance coverage, had cousin across the line who had insurance and still had to pay $5000.00 when her child was born, and to boot had twins so it came to $10,000.00.


When you send your children for post secondary education, maybe you would like to pay the $30-50 thousand a year.

Do you really think your paying that much more taxes than the USA if you are incorporated and paying 12% to make up the differences in health costs and education alone?

Why wait for Sask to join, go it alone and then you won't have to take the provincial debt with you!

The US is headed down the path to single payer health insurance. Maybe not in the next 4 years, but in the next 10, yes. Canada on the other hand, is going to have to get inventive if they want to keep theirs. Raising taxes to keep the system alive is not going to work. Fewer workers and more takers is going to be the norm. When you have foreign mothers coming in just to give birth and then handing the taxpayers the bill, that is killing the system.

As far as $30-50k a year for tuition, you must have damn smart kids, because that is Ivy League tuition rates. My kids would do quite well in life with a community college and have their tuition paid off in a few years, rather than whining that they are drowning in debt and need subsidies or entire notes written off.

I just suggest that Sask join the US for their best interest - because the hole that Ontario has made will suck the life out of everything in the West. Just wait, Trudeau is going to tweak the transfer payment program and turn it into a national stabilization fund. Those provinces that have money will have to bailout the ones deep in debt. That is how lefties/socialists think.

[fjlip]

I guess you didn't read the article I posted to start the thread "Water and Climate change". I thought someone living in the wet zone would have been at least curious as to possible explanations.

Reread that thread and you got a semi load of counter points from posters. I believe them NOT you.

History tells us HOT and DRY in the 30's, SFA human blame, our area which I experienced, in the COLD WET 50's was f*cking swamp. 70's cold and Wet again! The 80's were hot and dry, yay finally! 90's were okay, starting 2010 again disastrously, WET because COLD.

It has all happened before and will repeat again, nothing to do with CO2, or man. It's a huge earth, with cycles, random air currents, continuously CHANGING!

Wish more of the 600 plus viewers would add their two cents, come on it doesn't hurt to state an opinion! Simply... DO YOU WANT IT COLDER?

[Oliver88]

Stupid idea KAP the biggest cost to farmers is going to be on fertilizer so if fertilizer isn't exempt could be 10-20 bucks an acre across the farm cost. So basically a farmer organization is supporting a $10-20/ac tax on its members?

Big mistake and very naive of them if true.

They should be speaking out against the carbon tax and use every opportunity to oppose this ridiculous tax which will make Canadian producers uncompetitive with our American neighbours.
This carbon tax will be eliminated if there is a change in the federal government so farm groups should be lobbying all federal parties with their opposition.

[grassfarmer]

Reread that thread and you got a semi load of counter points from posters. I believe them NOT you.

Yeah, but did you read the article though? it was by someone that studies weather not just a bunch of farmers exchanging opposing views.

[foragefarmer]

15444

You'd better hope there is a reputable college in your district or state, as here is what it would cost in USA dollars x 1.35 to Canadian.

Type of College Average Published Yearly Tuition and Fees
Public Two-Year College (in-district students) $3,440
Public Four-Year College (in-state students) $9,410
Public Four-Year College (out-of-state students) $23,890
Private Four-Year College $32,410


Just to let you know I put my daughter through University where she got her degree and the tuition was appox $17000.00 for four years, she did have a few scholarships to reduce the total that I had to pay.

I'm sure you, your family,or somebody that is important to you has benefited immensely from the current Canadian health system that would have other wise been a small fortune if you had the same procedure in the USA. I wouldn't be so eager if I were you to move over to the USA without considering everything you've already gotten here in Canada.

[GDR]

I don't really know what is right on climate change. I do think we are wrecking the planet, more on the waste side and pollution. Like most here think the co2 is a bunch of bs. We definitely have had warmer winters recently which is great but have also had some wicked summer weather that isn't so great. The thing I find interesting is when you look at the record highs or lows for any given day most of the time they are in the first half of the century on both extremes.

Remember a story from an old neighbor that they plowed the farm where I grew up with horses in February. Couldn't have done that in my lifetime.

Find it funny that the sea level rising is gonna flood out parts of the world. Gotta wonder why those places built dikes to hold the water out and decided it was safe to build behind them. Just a dumb farmer here but I can figure that one out.

Bottom line, we likely gotta do something but carbon tax is crap.

[farmaholic]

The threat of rising sea levels.... could there be that much ice on the polar caps and mountain ranges that if it were to melt, (and in the process take up less space because water expands when it freezes) that sea levels would rise? Is there that much ice on the polar caps that the earth is egg-shaped rather than a more uniform shperical shape? 70(ish) percent of the earth's surface is already covered in water....thats a lot of area and you spread out the melted polar ice over that area...would it actually be significantly noticeable? How much would levels rise because of the earth's water expanding because it warmed a few degrees?

I agree earth's equilibrium is a fine balancing act....cook it or freeze it(obviously two extremes used only for writing purposes but you get the picture) and it will undergo changes, subtle or drastic? I don't know.....

I am not a self proclaimed _________ and have all the answers. In fact I would have more questions than answers but is anybody actually qualified to answer them. Does anyone actually know what's happening or is it all theoretical rhetoric? Time will reveal the answer.