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    #37
    Burnt, thank you very much for your info from someone who has actually lived through and is living with the result of ideologically driven green energy. I find it amusing but also shocking that Canadians believe the same man who made life so unaffordable in Ontario, that being Gerald Butts, will get a different result in the rest of Canada with the same policies. The only political leader in Canada coming to our defence is Premier Brad Wall!

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      #38
      Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
      So, if you are a group that calls yourself a farm group and you don't oppose a carbon tax, should you continue to all yourself a farm group?
      Substitute "climate change" for carbon tax and the same applies. Climate change is a greater risk to agriculture than a carbon tax, time to get your heads out of the sand and face reality.

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        #39
        If you're a farm group, you can't definitively say for sure that climate change will affect agriculture. For sure you can't have any effect on the worlds big emitters in India and China. But, as a farm group you know, for a fact, that the carbon tax will affect farm economics negatively. As a farm group you represent those farmers to the end, never surrendering.

        They're not climate groups. They're farm groups. They must fight the tax.

        Re climate change threatening agriculture, we'll do what we've always done, and that's adapt. Some will fail and some that can adapt will prosper. That's the nature of the business. Every time the government involves itself in saving us from ourselves, we usually end up with the opposite of the intended effect.

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          #40
          Wait till they ban fertilizer. then we will understand hurt in agriculture when food is imported from the highly subsidized US.

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            #41
            Originally posted by tweety View Post
            Wait till they ban fertilizer. then we will understand hurt in agriculture when food is imported from the highly subsidized US.
            They mite Not Ban fertilizer but they would probably BAN you from Broadcasting it out anytime of year as when it converts to NH3 its 310 times worse greenhouse than C02

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              #42
              ****in nuts..... broadcasting fertilizer, Oh but use the stable smart stuff, at what cost? I thought we moved away from that practice. They're selling "floaters" again. Full circle.

              More passes....equals???

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                #43
                Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                ****in nuts..... broadcasting fertilizer, Oh but use the stable smart stuff, at what cost? I thought we moved away from that practice. They're selling "floaters" again. Full circle.

                More passes....equals???
                well , lots of it's done here , nh3 in the fall that is, so that the ground will dry out in the spring . just not this fall

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by caseih View Post
                  well , lots of it's done here , nh3 in the fall that is, so that the ground will dry out in the spring . just not this fall
                  Your Putting IT IN the ground ,big difference. Lots of guys here are now laying it on Top with floaters....
                  Frickin ridiculous as you can Lose so much in volatilization
                  Last edited by mustardman; Dec 6, 2016, 14:15.

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                    #45
                    Originally posted by mustardman View Post
                    They mite Not Ban fertilizer but they would probably BAN you from Broadcasting it out anytime of year as when it converts to NH3 its 310 times worse greenhouse than C02
                    The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, nh3 is 82% nitrogen, but it's 310 times worse than co2 as a greenhouse gas? That's amazing! Amazing bullshit me thinks.

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                      #46
                      Originally posted by stonepicker View Post
                      The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, nh3 is 82% nitrogen, but it's 310 times worse than co2 as a greenhouse gas? That's amazing! Amazing bullshit me thinks.
                      Well Stoney go open a bottle of NH3(ammonia) and take some Deep breaths......feeling better now?

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                        #47
                        Originally posted by mustardman View Post
                        Well Stoney go open a bottle of NH3(ammonia) and take some Deep breaths......feeling better now?
                        Your reading too many greenpeace magazines mustard. nh3 is environmentally friendly.

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by mustardman View Post
                          I think a carbon is the FREE Markets way of convincing a switch to renewables. The tax can be used to pay for them.
                          The CCS experiment is VERY Expensive and will increase our Power bills X 2
                          The sentence seems to be missing something because it does not make sense as it is written.

                          However, if it intended to read ""I think a carbon tax is...", then this may be one of the most self-contradictory statements ever presented here.

                          Which should not be surprising, since the left seems to have great difficulty understanding the difference between free markets and oligarchical interference based on a false ideology.

                          And while free markets may also devolve into too few people having too much influence, at least it allows for other marketers or entrepreneurs to develop their own entrance into the marketplace.

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