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    #25
    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
    I forgot propane is 3 cents a litre at 20$ a tonne, rising to 7.5 cents a litre at 50$ a tonne.

    As for cattle Google Leonardo Decaprio and banning beef. There is a movement in India to ban the raising and consumption of beef. Leonardo is on board and if you think it will remain isolated to India you are very optimistic. If you give people an inch they will take a mile my Dad always said!
    For drying grain this year that 7.5 cents/liter would of added approximately 20% + applicable taxes.
    Anyone who heats their home with a propane furnace would have slightly smaller % increase.
    We will have to use Alberta as a case study to see if their GHG emissions change by the end of the disastrous NDP term.

    I predict their GHG emissions will track their economic output and employment rates.

    Hopefully most of the Notley damage can be reversed.

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      #26
      Gassy.

      You think you have a hard time convincing the Agriville crowd about the positive GHG of your cattle, just try to convince the environmental side.

      I'm sure you have a binder full of positive letters from them - not. lol

      Being a patsy, isn't going to gain you any credits from the carbon freaks.

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        #27
        Originally posted by checking View Post
        Gassy.

        You think you have a hard time convincing the Agriville crowd about the positive GHG of your cattle, just try to convince the environmental side.

        I'm sure you have a binder full of positive letters from them - not. lol

        Being a patsy, isn't going to gain you any credits from the carbon freaks.
        Thanks for your concern chicken but I'm getting on fine with the "environmental side". DU have extended an opportunity to us to graze some their land because they recognize that our management is better for the land than leaving it un-grazed, and considerably better than previously when it was growing annual crops.

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          #28
          Gasfarmer

          It's simply because that is "the business" of your cattle production.

          Unless you bow down to the dung beetle, the decomposition of your paddy production is the 100 % release of its nitrite oxide of every chip. Your method is far worse than the spreading and incorporation procedure of a feedlot operation. There is only so much that a cloven hoof can punch under cover.

          You are not grasping the mindset of an environmentalist. They want you to be growing plant protein, not GHG producing animal protein, and it does not matter how you choose to put lipstick on it. They are not your friends.

          Wise up, and put your energy into countering those folks because they mean to do you harm.

          Be a farmer.

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            #29
            Sorry, nitrous oxide.

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              #30
              Nitrous oxide, aka "laughing gas" - how appropriate given that's what we are doing with your feeble attempts to discredit grazing cattle's positive impact on the environment. "Worse than incorporating feedlot manure" indeed! Pass the N2O again, lol.

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                #31
                Well just for giggles; global warming is supposedly all about increasng temperatures.

                So grassy comes up with anecdotal evidence that only a minor temperature would cause frosts and crop disasters around the world.

                Show me any correlation that just because minor decreases (of same order as your example; or even a couple of degrees Centigrade (not Farenheit) greater; would cause global crop production reductions. It might be found that some areas would benefit from a temperature increase; farming areas might increase in total acreage; and plant growth flourish with increased CO2.

                In short; your analysis and conclusion might be well off the mark.

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                  #32
                  Third try - ammonia as gas, for gassy.

                  DU, being in the fowl meat production business, should have few problems teaming up with a beef producer. That doesn't add anything to your being accepted with letters of support from groups promoting plant protein.

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                    #33
                    So DU aren't an environmental group? that's twisting it a bit far Chicken. Don't think your fellow posters would agree.

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                      #34
                      Still talking meat, gasfarmer. Myself included. lol

                      DU is in the business of managing government water resources as water does not belong to private businesses. DU's objective is to offer landowners small incentives to keep its water fowl hunting culture well supplied. Nothing more, nothing less.

                      Gas , naturally, has accepted DU's bribes because heaven forbid he can't afford to provide enough groceries for his packing plant on his own property. Bravo, way to fix your costs, but you just lost another bit of independence and control.

                      The patsy sold out again, but I will agree that you are an expert in knowing moving expenses.

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                        #35
                        You seem only to be an expert at getting it wrong, I keep "checking" to see if you've smartened up but thus far it hasn't happened. Never taken a cent from DU nor signed any type of conservation agreement with them. Try again - or on second thoughts don't bother, it's tedious.

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                          #36
                          Yes, but did you get them to pay you for grazing out the portions of their land that they wanted grazing. If you didn't, then you're still a patsy.

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