Welcome to the chunky show!

[SASKFARMER3]

Chuck I like your cut and paste and mustard with charts on green energy. You boys really do your work. Must stay up late and have sleepless nights dreaming of the new green revolution.

But here is reality most of the world couldn't give a rats ass about going green. All gore is a billionaire now promoting a religion that is more evil than any religion in the history of the world. People say the bible is fake we'll all gore isn't even in the same ball park.

But let's look at Canada and where boy wonder and the goof troup are taking us. Tax every thing and increase it every year forward to curb Canadians to go green. Great concept but reality is increasing costs just leads to problems.

It is starting already business will try for a few years to compete with the USA China and India without the green dream. Finally they will move shut down or go bankrupt. Then the high unemployment phase will hit, Tim hirtons and Burger King jobs don't pay the rent power or gas we need. Once the slippery Slope starts their is no turning around. But one other thing happens provinces and the country as a whole have to go into huge debt to keep this gam going. Proof in first year of the cowboy in charge in Ottawa. Billions spent and nothing for it. Ontario is teetering on the edge, Quebec without transfer payments is done. Manitoba and Alberta are heading to a brick wall and BC well that's another topic.

So once the destruction of Canada is started by no one working the rich move on. Yes boy wonder will not live here because of the crime and high taxes any future gov will have to do to straitened out this mess. He will keep his Canadian citizen ship but live else where. The poor will not be able to afford housing and power and heat. Ah welcome to the days behind the Berlin Wall.

See boys it's about jobs and good paying jobs, that oil gas and mining bring.

Building wind mills that cost more in power and energy to make than they return in their life time doesn't make sense.

Jobs will leave either by moving to a country without this bullshit green agenda or just close up shop like the mighty Eatons store years ago.

But the one thing that still gets me how a country so rich in oil and gas would kill this golden egg just to change and follow the path of green.

I'm not saying don't look into it, yes fund alternative energy projects and if we find one that works then go with that. But why kill oil and gas and leave it in the ground just to chase a unproven technology.

Bleed oil and gas till its days are done then switch. But bankrupting a country makes no sense.

So chuck keep preaching I for one can't believe you can't see jobs make the world go round without you have violence, crime, poverty and despair. Look at the poor neighbourhoods in Mexico that will be Canada some day and yes the rich will leave before it gets that far. Or the two classes in India and Pakistan. No middle your either piss poor or filthy rich. Welcome to your world and again jobs and good paying jobs make the world go round.

[chuckChuck]

SF3 you have a very negative view of many things. I don't see green everything as a pancea. But climate change is here and the costs will be more serious than you realize.

[chuckChuck]

There are a lot of factors to consider when talking about jobs.

There are many jobs being lost due to robotics, and automation. New rigs in the oil industry are using less staff for the same jobs. Driver less cars and trucks are coming fast. Etc, Etc.

Why do we need a battery operator earning a $100K per year or more driving 100s of kilometres every day checking a few wells when one guy can use remote sensors and wireless for 100s of wells to do the same job for a fraction of the cost?

This technology is already in use in many parts of the oil and gas industry and will only get more widely used.

New Technology is replacing workers at a rapid rate.

[chuckChuck]

There will be lots of jobs in solar, wind and hydro.

I personally know lots of guys in the oil patch and lots of them have left and won't come back if they have a more stable better job offer.

The service rigs are still advertising for guys.

Yes the money is good when you are working, but family life is not as good, you are away from home alot. Its' the farmers and business owners who have time to spend at the rink in the winter. Not the working joe.

You are expected to work all the time if necessary and drilling rig and service rig jobs are tough jobs in bad weather. The service rigs are for young guys.

One rig i Know of just decided to start up just before christmas. Why? So they can try to run during the holidays and piss everyone off! Very few are going period.

Yes there are guys who do well and like it but anyone who expected the previous boom to last was very naive. Old timers have seen the boom and busts many times. It is not a stable industry because prices go up and down like a yoyo.

[furrowtickler]

So what exactly is climate change again ?? Lol

[furrowtickler]

Proof that CO2 follows behind natural global warming trends .

[Klause]

The earth has warmed and cooled many times. Humans won't change that, ever.


Climate change is a hoax in as far as humans being able to control or change it, and it's a way to redistribute wealth... well fake wealth (paper money) from those with much (Industrialized countries, and wealthy people in them) to those with little.

That's it. That's all.


It's a retarded mania for a few years and then it'll all go quiet again.


On the other hand, there is really only one solution.... Humans can't keep breeding like they are... We have to produce more food now every year than all of humanity required in a 100 years before. It's getting worse.


To prevent resource exhaustion, and human pollution there is only one solution and that's a culling. Sounds grim and morbid, but short of that nothing we do will change anything.


Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, and the universe is continually and steadily headed to entropy.


Immutable laws.

[Klause]

Oh yeah, and Chucky, a drilling rig runs on a crew of 16/17.


1/2 toolpushers

3 drillers
3 derrickhands
3 motorhands
3 roughnecks
3 leashands.


Doesn't matter if you're on a TDS3000 built in 2013 or a conventional kelly single built in 1972.

[chuckChuck]

Oil rig jobs may fall to tech
More automation in drilling could shift work from fields to desks

Houston Chronicle22 Dec 2016By Jordan Blum

The oil patch will have fewer jobs in the not-sodistant future as drilling rigs become increasingly automated, with companies putting the latest advances in drilling technology into the field next year.

These new rigs, using sophisticated software and robotics, could reduce the number of people working in the oil patch by up to 40 percent over the next few years, energy analysts said, while requiring more people in information technology to remotely monitor operations and troubleshoot problems. As with manufacturing and other industries that have become increasingly automated, the advances mean that oil and gas companies will likely need more brains, less brawn, and fewer workers overall.

It also means that many of the more than 215,000 U.S. jobs lost in the twoyear oil bust — including about 100,000 in Texas — may never return as

the industry recovery gains strength.

“That’s always been the Holy Grail to not have to touch the pipe and totally automate the process,” said Byron Pope, an energy analyst at Houston investment bank Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. “They’re automating more of the process and eliminating some of the human variability and error.”

Among the automated systems coming into operation next year is the “iRig” of the Houston oilfield services company Nabors Industries. Nabors’ technology, which it calls “iRacker,” uses automated robotics to lift long pieces of pipe from racks, piece them together and drive them into drilled holes to build the wells. Schlumberger, the world’s biggest energy services company is launching its “Rig of the Future,” which aims to drill more holes and deeper horizontal wells from a single location in West Texas shale fields, meaning the industry will require fewer rigs and fewer crews.

Rise of smart rigs

The technology is here, and the oil sector only need embrace it to save money and increase safety, said Chris Papouras, president of Nabors drilling solutions division. Papouras said the systems developed by Nabors and other companies mean that dangerous jobs, such as running steel pipe down wells, that required four or five workers, can be done with a push of a button, increasing efficiency and dramatically reducing the risk of injuries near the wellhead.

“The rig is still treated as dumb iron,” Papouras said. “The oil and gas industry still operates using old models. This is not a technology challenge. This is really a culture shift.”

Within a few years, the number of people on site for each rig at any given time could fall from an average of 25 to 15 people, analysts said. In addition, small “mom and pop” services companies that run pipe casing or attach drilling tools for larger companies could be forced out of business in the years to come. The rigs will automate most of the work of the casing crews as well as that of directional drilling crews that drive attachments to the rig and guide them during drilling, allowing companies like Nabors to do more of the work themselves, rather than hire third-party contractors.

ABB, a Swiss technology company, last year opened two new automation and robotics integration offices in Houston to work more closely to energy customers, said Brandon Spencer, ABB’s vice president of oil, gas and chemical in North America.

Bringing oil patch to Houston

Advances in wireless and sensor technology mean that even when wells are producing oil in remote fields, the temperatures and pressure levels can be monitored remotely from Houston without routinely having to send workers out to sites hundreds of miles away.

This technology is already used for deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, and is now making its way to onshore production.

“They’re running all of the Eagle Ford from Houston,” said Spencer. The Eagle Ford shale play is located in South Texas, about 250 miles from Houston.

New technologies, however, don’t necessarily mean fewer jobs, Spencer said.

ABB, for example, is teaming up with Microsoft to build what’s touted as the world’s largest cloud-based computing platform for industrial customers, including energy firms, allowing them to collect and analyze massive amounts of data to monitor performance, improve precision, and develop better techniques and processes. This will require large teams of computer scientists, software developers and other highly-skilled technical workers.

“It’s about redeploying the manpower; it’s different skill sets,” he said. “All of this big data still requires a lot of manpower.”

More data and information technology specialists also will be needed as the oilfield services sector consolidates and integrates the systems, products, and services of different companies, said Chris Wolfe, who leads the oilfield services practice group at the Dallas-based law firm Haynes and Boone. Schlumberger, for example, bought Houston-based Cameron International in part to boost its technology offerings, while Parisbased Technip is merging with Houston’s FMC Technologies for much of the same reasons.

General Electric is buying a majority of Houston’s Baker Hughes to marry a lot of the drilling and services work with the GE digital platform.

“A lot of investments in analytics are coming,” Wolfe said. “Information services has been underfunded in the oilfield services historically.”

Adding to the problem?

The downturn has spurred many exploration and production companies to adopt new technologies and create efficiencies beyond the discounts they received from services firms during oil bust, said Ahmed Hashmi, BP’s global head of upstream technology. Services companies do a wide variety of work for production companies, including drilling, cementing, and hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.

Large, further diversified services companies like Schlumberger and Baker Hughes could make things easier for producers like BP by helping them produce more oil at lower costs as the industry recovers. While the industry is working through global oil glut, the world will still need 35 percent more energy by 2035, Hashmi said, most of it coming from oil and gas.

The industry got into this mess largely because of drilling technologies that began opening oil and gas reserves in shale rock formations about a decade ago. Today’s technological advancements mean the energy sector can extract 5 trillion barrels of oil and gas globally by 2050 — twice what world is forecast to demand — although much of it won’t make economic sense to produce.

“Technically, the world is awash in oil and gas,” Hashmi said. “That’s on the back of technology.”

[furrowtickler]

A lot of "data" has been cherry picked to show continued warming . That is becoming a fact.
The whole basis of climate change and carbon tax is based on falsified temp records. That's why many people have a problem with what's going on .

[Klause]

Oil rig jobs may fall to tech
More automation in drilling could shift work from fields to desks

Houston Chronicle22 Dec 2016By Jordan Blum

The oil patch will have fewer jobs in the not-sodistant future as drilling rigs become increasingly automated, with companies putting the latest advances in drilling technology into the field next year.

These new rigs, using sophisticated software and robotics, could reduce the number of people working in the oil patch by up to 40 percent over the next few years, energy analysts said, while requiring more people in information technology to remotely monitor operations and troubleshoot problems. As with manufacturing and other industries that have become increasingly automated, the advances mean that oil and gas companies will likely need more brains, less brawn, and fewer workers overall.

It also means that many of the more than 215,000 U.S. jobs lost in the twoyear oil bust — including about 100,000 in Texas — may never return as

the industry recovery gains strength.

“That’s always been the Holy Grail to not have to touch the pipe and totally automate the process,” said Byron Pope, an energy analyst at Houston investment bank Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. “They’re automating more of the process and eliminating some of the human variability and error.”

Among the automated systems coming into operation next year is the “iRig” of the Houston oilfield services company Nabors Industries. Nabors’ technology, which it calls “iRacker,” uses automated robotics to lift long pieces of pipe from racks, piece them together and drive them into drilled holes to build the wells. Schlumberger, the world’s biggest energy services company is launching its “Rig of the Future,” which aims to drill more holes and deeper horizontal wells from a single location in West Texas shale fields, meaning the industry will require fewer rigs and fewer crews.

Rise of smart rigs

The technology is here, and the oil sector only need embrace it to save money and increase safety, said Chris Papouras, president of Nabors drilling solutions division. Papouras said the systems developed by Nabors and other companies mean that dangerous jobs, such as running steel pipe down wells, that required four or five workers, can be done with a push of a button, increasing efficiency and dramatically reducing the risk of injuries near the wellhead.

“The rig is still treated as dumb iron,” Papouras said. “The oil and gas industry still operates using old models. This is not a technology challenge. This is really a culture shift.”

Within a few years, the number of people on site for each rig at any given time could fall from an average of 25 to 15 people, analysts said. In addition, small “mom and pop” services companies that run pipe casing or attach drilling tools for larger companies could be forced out of business in the years to come. The rigs will automate most of the work of the casing crews as well as that of directional drilling crews that drive attachments to the rig and guide them during drilling, allowing companies like Nabors to do more of the work themselves, rather than hire third-party contractors.

ABB, a Swiss technology company, last year opened two new automation and robotics integration offices in Houston to work more closely to energy customers, said Brandon Spencer, ABB’s vice president of oil, gas and chemical in North America.

Bringing oil patch to Houston

Advances in wireless and sensor technology mean that even when wells are producing oil in remote fields, the temperatures and pressure levels can be monitored remotely from Houston without routinely having to send workers out to sites hundreds of miles away.

This technology is already used for deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, and is now making its way to onshore production.

“They’re running all of the Eagle Ford from Houston,” said Spencer. The Eagle Ford shale play is located in South Texas, about 250 miles from Houston.

New technologies, however, don’t necessarily mean fewer jobs, Spencer said.

ABB, for example, is teaming up with Microsoft to build what’s touted as the world’s largest cloud-based computing platform for industrial customers, including energy firms, allowing them to collect and analyze massive amounts of data to monitor performance, improve precision, and develop better techniques and processes. This will require large teams of computer scientists, software developers and other highly-skilled technical workers.

“It’s about redeploying the manpower; it’s different skill sets,” he said. “All of this big data still requires a lot of manpower.”

More data and information technology specialists also will be needed as the oilfield services sector consolidates and integrates the systems, products, and services of different companies, said Chris Wolfe, who leads the oilfield services practice group at the Dallas-based law firm Haynes and Boone. Schlumberger, for example, bought Houston-based Cameron International in part to boost its technology offerings, while Parisbased Technip is merging with Houston’s FMC Technologies for much of the same reasons.

General Electric is buying a majority of Houston’s Baker Hughes to marry a lot of the drilling and services work with the GE digital platform.

“A lot of investments in analytics are coming,” Wolfe said. “Information services has been underfunded in the oilfield services historically.”

Adding to the problem?

The downturn has spurred many exploration and production companies to adopt new technologies and create efficiencies beyond the discounts they received from services firms during oil bust, said Ahmed Hashmi, BP’s global head of upstream technology. Services companies do a wide variety of work for production companies, including drilling, cementing, and hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.

Large, further diversified services companies like Schlumberger and Baker Hughes could make things easier for producers like BP by helping them produce more oil at lower costs as the industry recovers. While the industry is working through global oil glut, the world will still need 35 percent more energy by 2035, Hashmi said, most of it coming from oil and gas.

The industry got into this mess largely because of drilling technologies that began opening oil and gas reserves in shale rock formations about a decade ago. Today’s technological advancements mean the energy sector can extract 5 trillion barrels of oil and gas globally by 2050 — twice what world is forecast to demand — although much of it won’t make economic sense to produce.

“Technically, the world is awash in oil and gas,” Hashmi said. “That’s on the back of technology.”

CHUCHKY



I say boy, I say, you ain't listenin!!!


I've worked on these rigs. These idiots are analysts. Talk to boots on the ground.

Effin keyboard warrior is all you are, and I wish you would quit spamming this site with your leftist liberal fake news dribel.

Most of it has nothing to do with Ag!

[furrowtickler]

https://youtu.be/4Ew05sRDAcU

[Flatlander]

Chucky while many folks are putting in their eight in the spring to fall I'll put in 16 or what ever it takes to to get the job done. You know nicotine, caffeine, n lots a karosene. So if I am at the rink all winter or in Maui with sf3, tough luck. You should try farming some time. It's so easy that half of the farms around here are gone during my career. Same everywhere else. These lefttard type taxes are sure to take that process and excelerate it. Why not try something that will work. A market economy. Invent create prove that some of the bs your spewing on here works. Take it to market cheaper than coal oil gas diesel, and put all of it out of business. Create something of value for people and get yourself rich instead of bringing us all down to your level

[blackpowder]

"Trump has sent mixed signals on whether he will try to slow Earth’s warming temperatures and rising sea levels."
This cut and paste is from a "news" article.
To me it illustrates the first problem. It is taken as fact that we can control natures' minutae.
One man slowing the Earths climate... No man who has slung a 36 with frozen green kings would think that. Or most of what is pasted for that matter..

Phew it stinks around here lately.

[checking]

cc.

To follow up on flatlander.

Do you not see that if all the industry producers, and governments which you have listed over numerous cut and pastes, want change and are willing to replace their products and services with environmentally friendly products and services, then why the need for a carbon tax on the consumer of those products? Consumers will have no choice but to purchase these goods, or go without, and by default the planet is saved.

I see this present strategy only encouraging a black market underground, and consumers figuring out ways to circumvent the tax.