Welcome to the chunky show!

[Flatlander]

Chucky while many folks are putting in their eight in the spring to fall I'll put in 16 or what ever it takes to to get the job done. You know nicotine, caffeine, n lots a karosene. So if I am at the rink all winter or in Maui with sf3, tough luck. You should try farming some time. It's so easy that half of the farms around here are gone during my career. Same everywhere else. These lefttard type taxes are sure to take that process and excelerate it. Why not try something that will work. A market economy. Invent create prove that some of the bs your spewing on here works. Take it to market cheaper than coal oil gas diesel, and put all of it out of business. Create something of value for people and get yourself rich instead of bringing us all down to your level

[blackpowder]

"Trump has sent mixed signals on whether he will try to slow Earth’s warming temperatures and rising sea levels."
This cut and paste is from a "news" article.
To me it illustrates the first problem. It is taken as fact that we can control natures' minutae.
One man slowing the Earths climate... No man who has slung a 36 with frozen green kings would think that. Or most of what is pasted for that matter..

Phew it stinks around here lately.

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cc.

To follow up on flatlander.

Do you not see that if all the industry producers, and governments which you have listed over numerous cut and pastes, want change and are willing to replace their products and services with environmentally friendly products and services, then why the need for a carbon tax on the consumer of those products? Consumers will have no choice but to purchase these goods, or go without, and by default the planet is saved.

I see this present strategy only encouraging a black market underground, and consumers figuring out ways to circumvent the tax.

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cc.

I'd sure like to see the list of carbon tax exempt goods. Have you found one?

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Don't bother. Found some.

[burnt]

The earth has warmed and cooled many times. Humans won't change that, ever.


Climate change is a hoax in as far as humans being able to control or change it, and it's a way to redistribute wealth... well fake wealth (paper money) from those with much (Industrialized countries, and wealthy people in them) to those with little.

That's it. That's all.


It's a retarded mania for a few years and then it'll all go quiet again.


On the other hand, there is really only one solution.... Humans can't keep breeding like they are... We have to produce more food now every year than all of humanity required in a 100 years before. It's getting worse.


To prevent resource exhaustion, and human pollution there is only one solution and that's a culling. Sounds grim and morbid, but short of that nothing we do will change anything.


Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, and the universe is continually and steadily headed to entropy.


Immutable laws.

Here's what might be your culling tool, Klause. But it's not very selective...

[URL="http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/a-supervolcano-caused-the-largest-eruption-in-european-history-now-its-stirring-again"]http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/a-supervolcano-caused-the-largest-eruption-in-european-history-now-its-stirring-again[/URL]


' "In general, unfortunately, volcanology is not a precise science,” Chiodini wrote in an email.' - sounds a but like climatology, as much art as fact.

[seldomseen]

Chuck, If you are worried about climate change read Tim Ball's book, " The Deliberate Corruption Of Climate Science " Tim connects all the dots and shows how a handful of unscrupulous characters at the IPCC manipulated all the temperature numbers and then all the environmentalists jumped on the idea and ran with it.

[SASKFARMER3]

Chucks it's called culling the herd. The rich will move and live the poor will die off. You probably might disappear in your new world order. Justin will move on so will others. Sad but true.
Plan for the future because it will be different. Kill a great economy based on oil and gas dreaming in tec colour yea it's easy to see where we will end up.
Population control.

[mustardman]

TIM BALL. .?? Talk about fake news . He doesn't even have the credentials he claims to have. Don't use him as your source, you mite as well make $hi& up and post it on Facebook

[blackpowder]

Patrick Moores' book is good as is Howard Buffets.
Anyway, the more we rely on button pushers the more weak shall perish?

[Hamloc]

Indeed it is an odd day. To limited extent I have to agree with Chuck2. I think with self driving long haul trucks, self driving taxis, stores like Amazon's new store in Seattle with no tellers, robotic manufacturing plants there will be hundreds of thousands of jobs that will disappear. The next big debate will be a guaranteed minimum income from government. Tax rates on corporations will have to go up a great deal, maybe 50%. Sales tax of probably 20%. I assume the permanently unemployed could reach 15-20%. Not trying to be negative just realistic. At some point farmers will become contract operators producing under contract for corporations. Not a big fan of what some aspects of technology will do to society. Maybe I am dreaming just my thoughts for the day.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

SF3 you have a very negative view of many things. I don't see green everything as a panacea. But climate change is here (and always has been) and the costs (Benefits) will be more serious than you realize.

There, fixed it for you.