Hauling beans suck now

[may-be]

Another problem from our wet damp year we had was more sclerotinia in our beans. A few train cars got rejected so now we are being graded because of this. I finally got to haul one load in from a contract made in June for December delivery. I was booked not only a day but also a time for the first time at this elevator. It was slow going because the one person working in the delivery office had to pick through a screening sample manually to get the sclerotinia bodies out to be weighed. My sample was downgraded one grade so I lost over .30 cents for that and another over.30 because it was not quite dry... Still have volatility when its contracted and in the bin...This sucks for me not only for the lost money per bushel but also more days for pushing snow and warming up equipment...This would also take away efficiency from the grain terminal side.

[wmoebis]

Another problem from our wet damp year we had was more sclerotinia in our beans. A few train cars got rejected so now we are being graded because of this. I finally got to haul one load in from a contract made in June for December delivery. I was booked not only a day but also a time for the first time at this elevator. It was slow going because the one person working in the delivery office had to pick through a screening sample manually to get the sclerotinia bodies out to be weighed. My sample was downgraded one grade so I lost over .30 cents for that and another over.30 because it was not quite dry... Still have volatility when its contracted and in the bin...This sucks for me not only for the lost money per bushel but also more days for pushing snow and warming up equipment...This would also take away efficiency from the grain terminal side.

Any other business would make sure they had enough staff on when they know they have customers lined up. Picking sclerotina is not rocket science nor does it take long if you know what you are doing.

[Klause]

Another problem from our wet damp year we had was more sclerotinia in our beans. A few train cars got rejected so now we are being graded because of this. I finally got to haul one load in from a contract made in June for December delivery. I was booked not only a day but also a time for the first time at this elevator. It was slow going because the one person working in the delivery office had to pick through a screening sample manually to get the sclerotinia bodies out to be weighed. My sample was downgraded one grade so I lost over .30 cents for that and another over.30 because it was not quite dry... Still have volatility when its contracted and in the bin...This sucks for me not only for the lost money per bushel but also more days for pushing snow and warming up equipment...This would also take away efficiency from the grain terminal side.

And I'm on the other end... terminal has been begging us to deliver but haven't been in a position to deliver till this week.


A bean is a bean is a bean it's really hard to get enough sclerotinia in a sample to downgrade it. Are you sure they aren't grading purplish beans as sclerotinia? Some varieties have weird colouring

[may-be]

A bean is a bean is a bean it's really hard to get enough sclerotinia in a sample to downgrade it. Are you sure they aren't grading purplish beans as sclerotinia? Some varieties have weird colouring

It's not the bean! It is a hard black fungal structure (sclerotia) that form in lesions on, or inside the stem. They look like small rat turds. It does not clean out of the splits and smaller seeds. that is why he has to pick them out to separate them. I watched him and it was tedious.

[farmaholic]

May-be, we grew small green lentils(after a sclerotinia infected canola crop--big mistake) that were so badly infected that the sclerotia bodies were growing on the outside of the stem. When combining the sclerotia bodies were very noticeably present in the harvested grain....sold them in one of the top two grades without any problems...did the cleaners remove it....I doubt sizing would have removed all of them...gravity table?


Soybeans are fairly big, are the sclerotia bodies that big?

Guys around here are growing soybeans back to back to take advantage of the innoculum built up in the soil after the first year on virgin soybean ground.....is that really considered sound agronomic practice? If the white mold is already here from canola, peas and lentils how wise would growing soybeans back to back be?

[may-be]

Soybeans are fairly big, are the sclerotia bodies that big?

Guys around here are growing soybeans back to back to take advantage of the innoculum built up in the soil after the first year on virgin soybean ground.....is that really considered sound agronomic practice? If the white mold is already here from canola, peas and lentils how wise would growing soybeans back to back be?

You can take a soybean and cut it in half. Then in half again and one more time and you still get paid for it. If you have a pod with seed in it that is dockage. So if you screened out the finer chips with the sclerotia bodies, that may loose me more money.

This one field that was worse had my more gentler crop rotation. Wheat, summer fallow (to wet to seed), fall rye. I grew this variety for 4 years prior and was happy with it. This year it grew very tall and laid out on me. Worst year for dampness in mid summer/fall.

[Klause]

Are you sure they are doing it right???


I realize what sclerotinia is... however dockage is assessed through a #8 screen. That's some awfully big fungal bodies to go through there....


We've never cracked beans, I doubt you have much smalls/fines in there.... Do you have a #8 screen? Run a sample through it yourself.


Just saying, something seems fishy here.... And very few in Western Canada know how to grade soybeans or corn properly.

[jcv]

The fact Rail Cars were rejected would indicate the end user had issues with the Sclerotinia. What the customer accepts as the grade is what matters.

Where are you delivering? Tough beans also could be a factor. If there is not a certain volume to blend off some of these issues, then I can see evaluating each load.

It is possible to spray a fungicide for sclerotinia, but have never seen a need yet, although this was a different year. Normally the advantage on yield is negligible, but maybe on grade?

[sumdumguy]

You can't ship tough pulses - no way. If disease affects the seed, and the loads are rejected it gets very "Expensive", not to mention the fact that the end user or foreign buyer is likely not going to buy from you again. This year may be another bad year for disease because of all the straw we had last year. We may be burning black - never look back!

[Daylate]

Haven't grown soybeans for 5 or 6 years now, but I know this is a problem. Was at an elevator with my Durum samples getting them picked for fuz and learning how cause we're trying to clean our own and need to know %'s on an ongoing basis. And they had soybean samples they didn't know what to do with because it was full of sclerotia. I mean full! There was chunks half the size of pens in there and lots of it. So I can see it being a problem. If I was buying I would be concerned.

[MBgrower]

Never heard of this problem in manitoba. Some guys growing beans three years in a row. Usually root rots become a problem without proper rotation.

[wmoebis]

May-be did you send sample to third party for grade?

[may-be]

I put some through a#10 screen and very few went through. I put some through a much larger screen and noticed some of the sclerotia is the same size as the smaller beans and others the same size as the splits and cracks. This year I have the most cracked beans ever at the last of my harvest. Because of tough/damp pods and high humidity I had to adjust my combine much more aggressively. if not I would of had lots of unthrashed pods in the sample and lost more out the back.

All elevators are the treating this concern the same in my area. My beans were v slightly tough as my air and heat is not working since it got cold outside. Tough beans are not a factor, only the sclerotia bodies. The elevators are drying them if they are also.