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    #16
    Originally posted by tweety View Post
    None of those things were in your original questions' criteria.

    Fusion holds more promise then anything know to man today.
    I didn't list nuclear, because it is not considered as renewable by the green zealots.

    Governments in peaceful countries aren't subsidising fusion, at least not to the degree that they are the other green power sources, even though it is well proven that it the only source currently capable of replacing fossil fuels. Which is part of my original question, why did PV and wind become the technologies of choice for government subisdies, as opposed to all the other options? If one were to follow the money, what would you learn?

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      #17
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      I didn't list nuclear, because it is not considered as renewable by the green zealots.

      Governments in peaceful countries aren't subsidising fusion, at least not to the degree that they are the other green power sources, even though it is well proven that it the only source currently capable of replacing fossil fuels. Which is part of my original question, why did PV and wind become the technologies of choice for government subisdies, as opposed to all the other options? If one were to follow the money, what would you learn?
      Don't confuse fission with fusion

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        #18
        Originally posted by rockpile View Post
        In short - it has yet to be discovered. We are just one generation in the long history of mankind and it is totally disingenuous for any of us to think we know everything about anything. Remember the communicators in Star Trek? Now correlate that to flip phones just a couple of decades later.
        Yup, Star Trek, will be the savior, Di-Lithium Crystals=Warp engines= wicked power=unimaginable speed!

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          #19
          Originally posted by tweety View Post
          Don't confuse fission with fusion
          Not confusing, just lumping them together because they have the same stigmas attached

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            #20
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            Not confusing, just lumping them together because they have the same stigmas attached
            Not even close. Fission is non renewable

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              #21
              Can't cook a steak without a nice propane barbaque or natural gas! So basically I guess the next thing in full the herd is vegetarian

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                #22
                Most guys collect oil and have it picked up.

                The average combine or tractor gets an oil change and 80 percent goes back to the refinery.

                Diesel is burnt but with these cleaner engines....you have to wonder...

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by tweety View Post
                  Not even close. Fission is non renewable
                  Yes, but does the public have a clue about Fusion? If you asked the average Joe on the street would they be able to differentiate between fusion and fission, or would they immediately think of Chernobyl and Fukishima, at the mention of either one? I know I need to do a lot more research.

                  But, my bigger question is, why are we all fixated on wind and PV, when options such as this exist? What is the money trail that lead us here, or is it for genuine fundamental reasons?

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                    #24
                    Been following supposed cold fusion technology outa Italy for at least 5 years called ECAT. Nickel and hydrogen are fused into copper or something like that and 4 times the energy comes out.

                    The whole thing is either a really good fraud or there is amazing potential. Most likely fraud but entertaining none the less. This article oulines the drama pretty well.

                    [URL="https://www.google.ca/amp/www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/amp20454/in-cold-fusion-20-whos-scamming-whom/?client=ms-android-samsung"]https://www.google.ca/amp/www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/amp20454/in-cold-fusion-20-whos-scamming-whom/?client=ms-android-samsung[/URL]

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      Yes, but does the public have a clue about Fusion? If you asked the average Joe on the street would they be able to differentiate between fusion and fission, or would they immediately think of Chernobyl and Fukishima, at the mention of either one? I know I need to do a lot more research.

                      But, my bigger question is, why are we all fixated on wind and PV, when options such as this exist? What is the money trail that lead us here, or is it for genuine fundamental reasons?
                      no they can't differentiate, but it doesn't matter anyways. People feel techy today because they can swipe an ipad.

                      Follow the Wendelstein 7-X in Germany.

                      Also search solar cell capture of CO2. Creation of syngas rather then photovoltaic, its photosynthesis.
                      Last edited by tweety; Jan 2, 2017, 06:52.

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                        #26
                        Firewood. We waste billions of BTU's just letting it rot or burn up in forest fires

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by dalek View Post
                          Firewood. We waste billions of BTU's just letting it rot or burn up in forest fires
                          That's my observation here also in the west part of the province. Millions of cords of wood rot in public and private woodlots every year. And now that the ash borer is making its way north and east, millions more cords of the nicest, easiest ash firewood turning into carbon and adding to the CO2 burden in the process, LOL!!

                          Why? Don't tell me oil got too cheap maybe? The reality is that a wage-earner or property owner or farmer can make enough money to pay for oil, gas or electric heat in far less time and effort than it would take to cut a winter's supply of firewood.

                          But maybe that's just me because cutting firewood in one of my favorite jobs on the farm. It's a great de-stressor.

                          Ooops, well, I guess I've just gone full circle here - cutting wood takes human effort that many or most don't want to expend for lack of return.
                          Last edited by burnt; Jan 2, 2017, 10:54.

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                            #28
                            Has anyone done the math on burning firewood?

                            The typical firewood exercise looks like this:

                            Drive diesel truck to woodlot, lots of idle time,

                            Use gas powered chainsaw to cut down trees, delimb, and top.

                            Use diesel powered skid steer or tractor to move, load and unload trees

                            Chainsaw again to buck up the wood

                            Gas powered wood splitter, or hydraulics from diesel tractor to split the wood

                            Run quad in middle of winter to move wood from shed to house

                            Hire chimney cleaner who brings big diesel truck, which screams for half an hour while cleaning chimney.


                            Now, if I took the energy content of all the fuel that went into creating that firewood, and burnt it directly in my furnace, could I heat my house and save all the work?


                            No doubt that burning wood should be more efficient, renewable, sustainable, but I think it would involve axes, swede saws and horses.

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                              #29
                              Any furnaces that would clean burn heated canola or fuss damaged wheat?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
                                Any furnaces that would clean burn heated canola or fuss damaged wheat?
                                Maybe Just like olden days, only Instead of growing hay to feed work horses and stoves to burn cow chips we need on farm ethanol and bio plants and stoves to burn low quality grain to heat buildings and dry grain.

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