Vomitoxin/Don....

[farmaholic]

MS_GR110
Minneapolis, MN Tue Jan 03, 2017 USDA Market News


Prices Reflect No. 1 Milling Quality Only. Milling Quality is defined as
300 or better Falling Numbers; 58 lbs or better test weight; 13.5 pct or less
Moisture; 1.5 Pct or less Damage; 1.5 Pct or less Dockage and 2.0 ppm or less
vomitoxin.

RAIL - Spot Change TRUCK
Wheat on MGEX Floor/Delivered Chicago/Beyond 20 Day To-Arrive
US 1 Milling DNS/NS Wheat Mpls Dul
11 Pct No Quote - - - - - -
12 Pct No Quote - - - - - -
13 Pct 6.2750N dn 0.5 5.1750 - -
13.5 Pct 6.4750N dn 0.5 - - - -
14 Pct 6.6250 -6.6750 up 4.5-dn 15.5 5.4250 - -
14.5 Pct 6.8250 -6.8750 up 14.5-19.5 - - - -
15 Pct 6.9750 -7.0750 N dn 0.5 5.5250 - -
16 Pct No Quote - - - - - -
17 Pct No Quote - - - - - -


November 2016 AVERAGES
Average prices are for spot market unless otherwise denoted.
MGEX wheat/Delivered Chicago/Beyond
No 1 DNS Wheat 13% protein 6.2626
14% protein 6.3026
15% protein 6.5644




These prices state delivered Chicago/Beyond. So I guess we would have to back freight off to the farm gate and take the exchange into account.

[bucket]

Let me try this phrase again....

North American grain standards


No sense in having perfect product if the competitors don't and they can still sell for a better or equal price?

And really it doesn't matter graincos can pull from which ever global warehouse they choose.


The 2.5 million tonnes of floating vessels out west are positioned to get grain when the other warehouses can't supply.

[Redone]

I don't really have a dog in this hunt, so its just an outsider looking in.

Was mycotoxins a concern 10 years ago? What has lead the grain producers down this path to mycotoxins, leaf disease, insect pressures, herbicide resistance, etc? It seems to me that money is being thrown at this problem only to have it show up somewhere else as another problem. Have rotations become too tight? Is production that much more per acre compared to 20 years ago that you can afford to keep throwing money at it?

Once again, I raise cattle so I have no skin on the table. Just some questions I would ask when looking at all the problems that seem to be happening in the grain business

[farmaholic]

Redone.....IMO, high input intensive continuous cropping is responsible. Environmental factors such as weather, pathogen innoculum and susceptible crops. Even with half decent rotations some crops within the rotation share the same diseases. Kinda hard to completely avoid the risk. Some areas have rotational limitations due to what crops can be successfully grown in them. For Pete's sake some weeds are hosts to common crop diseases. Who the hell wants to intensively till in erosion prone areas... chem fallow could exacerbate an already too wet scenario. Burning black sacrifices valuable organic matter. Continuous cropping has done wonders for this farm but has created other issues.

Mother Nature is impossible to out-maneuver.

[furrowtickler]

Redone - you bring up the most important points that almost everyone is told to ignore. Everyone is told it's the weather , it is what it is - 75% b/s.
The increase in one time fertility and certain herbicides and in some cases fugicides themselves in leading to poor grain quality .
Certain aspects of this can be proven in the Rack's pea plot results .
It is no secret in canola and cereal production as well that the more one puts into the crop the more you have to put into it to keep quality . All fine and dandy if we had proper weather forecasts to deal with it - but we don't .
The more lush you make a crop from the strat the more likely problems will be exaggerated later .

[biglentil]

Were the fungicide manufacturers that lucky that fusarium spread like wildfire or did they have hand in it?
Probably never know but like cancer they have strong incentive that a cure is never found.

[furrowtickler]

Biglentil - same applies to pulse crops .

[Daylate]

Don't want to piss anyone off more. But it makes me mad. So mine as well spread the wealth. Europe has a fuz product. Been using it for years. Not registered in Canada and can't get it here. Really pisses me off. Germany uses it on all cereal acres every year just before flowering. Does nothing for leaf disease but that's sprayed a week earlier with prosaro.

[Daylate]

And Germany's tolerance on domestic and export wheat is 2.0% vomi. So they have to hit same kind of specs.

[Daylate]

Oh. And don't let anyone tell you fuz can't be cleaned out. Everyone's is different and its worth a try. We average 3% fuzz. Just started on our Durum today. Started with 5% fuz stuff. Cleaning at 450bu/h, less than 10% screenings and is down to 1.5 to 2.0%.
Not too much fun but neither is working all year for nothing. Hoping to make something out of this shit yet.