Vomitoxin/Don....

[furrowtickler]

Redone - you bring up the most important points that almost everyone is told to ignore. Everyone is told it's the weather , it is what it is - 75% b/s.
The increase in one time fertility and certain herbicides and in some cases fugicides themselves in leading to poor grain quality .
Certain aspects of this can be proven in the Rack's pea plot results .
It is no secret in canola and cereal production as well that the more one puts into the crop the more you have to put into it to keep quality . All fine and dandy if we had proper weather forecasts to deal with it - but we don't .
The more lush you make a crop from the strat the more likely problems will be exaggerated later .

[biglentil]

Were the fungicide manufacturers that lucky that fusarium spread like wildfire or did they have hand in it?
Probably never know but like cancer they have strong incentive that a cure is never found.

[furrowtickler]

Biglentil - same applies to pulse crops .

[Daylate]

Don't want to piss anyone off more. But it makes me mad. So mine as well spread the wealth. Europe has a fuz product. Been using it for years. Not registered in Canada and can't get it here. Really pisses me off. Germany uses it on all cereal acres every year just before flowering. Does nothing for leaf disease but that's sprayed a week earlier with prosaro.

[Daylate]

And Germany's tolerance on domestic and export wheat is 2.0% vomi. So they have to hit same kind of specs.

[Daylate]

Oh. And don't let anyone tell you fuz can't be cleaned out. Everyone's is different and its worth a try. We average 3% fuzz. Just started on our Durum today. Started with 5% fuz stuff. Cleaning at 450bu/h, less than 10% screenings and is down to 1.5 to 2.0%.
Not too much fun but neither is working all year for nothing. Hoping to make something out of this shit yet.

[farmaholic]

And where is Bayer's headquarters? LEVERKUSEN GERMANY

[farmaholic]

Daylate.....if they can't beat you down with the fuzz stick they'll use the vomitoxin stick.

I've heard it said that vomitoxin can be high even in what "looks" to be low fusarium count grain.....I can imagine that "threat" is for suspect stuff that was cleaned because of high fusarium levels.....sigh.

I can't wait for the tests that measure unicorn urine and fairy dust in parts per billion...with a B.

[Daylate]

Lol. Yes. Waiting on vomi test. But will be down considerably too. Has to be with the absolute useless white chalk and junk coming off the gravity table into the screening. I like beating myself in the head with a stick.feels good. Gonna clean it all in hopes of being at least at 1 to 1.5% fuz with 1.5 to 2% vomi on average for everything.

[farmaholic]

The cleaning challenge is getting, or should I say leaving behind, the infected kernels with the same density as the good stuff and taking some good stuff out with the screenings. Tough gig!

Is anyone using higher cleaning technology than screens, indents and gravity tables? And what kind of results are you getting? What's the total percent being removed and having any issues getting the cleaned product to grade decent?

[wmoebis]

The cleaning challenge is getting, or should I say leaving behind, the infected kernels with the same density as the good stuff and taking some good stuff out with the screenings. Tough gig!

Is anyone using higher cleaning technology than screens, indents and gravity tables? And what kind of results are you getting? What's the total percent being removed and having any issues getting the cleaned product to grade decent?

Outfit out of USA claims to have machine that will clean fuss and remove Vomi. Think it is a little misleading on results but might be worth giving them opportunity to demo unit.


http://agrotech-almaz.com/ or Google - Almaz grain cleaning.

[Daylate]

They didn't work for us. Sorry. Got one sitting in the yard still. Demoed from flamans. Called aeromeh. Same thing. There's about 4 companies in Ukraine all making the same thing. Flamans flew 2 over to get them demoed and tried to see. Was only taking our 5% stuff to 3.5. not good enough obviously. Bebearder and grain vac was doing about that too. So no thanks. I was hoping for big things out of these furance fans too. Can get fairly good capacity without a huge investment. But no luck.