Another Generator alternative

[farming101]

40 MW turnkey power plant for 25 M Euros. Will use compressed flair gas for fuel. Not green but what is?


[URL="http://www.wartsila.com/media/news/04-01-2017-wartsila-to-supply-40-mw-fast-track-power-plant-to-argentina"]http://www.wartsila.com/media/news/04-01-2017-wartsila-to-supply-40-mw-fast-track-power-plant-to-argentina[/URL]

[bucket]

I wonder if mounting a tidal generator in both the north and south Saskatchewan rivers would be feasible?

There is always flow one way.

[tweety]

[URL="http://www.smart-hydro.de/renewable-energy-systems/hydrokinetic-turbines-river-canal/"]http://www.smart-hydro.de/renewable-energy-systems/hydrokinetic-turbines-river-canal/[/URL]

Oh those crazy Germans.

[bucket]

They could put those at highway 4 at sask landing. And at Saskatoon's weir. Same water.... twice the bang for the buck.....

[AlbertaFarmer5]

There is a lot of "trapped" gas in Alberta right now, not enough pipelines or processing capacity to handle it all. Producers are starting to install generation where the wells are to sell the power instead.

[oneoff]

This type of "technology" has been proven a lot closer to home than Argentina

Energy and Mines questioned whether the "flare gas" venting volume had any practical use or worth at all; turns out to be a fair bit more capable than just electrically powering the pump jack and heating uses at the well site. And the waste heat (as all internal combustion engines and generators inherently produce as CHP possibilities (combined heat and power or cogeneration which IS supported by Sask Power)) has additional potential for very cost efficient uses.


And since there are lots of people (including those who contribute to agriville) who are aware of these actual projects, but can not bring themselves to mention them because they are connected to burnng fossil fuels..guess what happens in this quest and debate for changing our energy supplies and utilizing our resources.
Long long ago their minds were fixed with the imprint that fossil fuels and CO2 are bad, bad, bad.

Well maybe needed for their operations but everyone else should have changed their ways a long time ago.

It would be nice to see some support given to putting productive uses put to wastes; and huge efficiency increases supported; even if it did extend into coal or fossil fuels processes that still are essential even at this moment.

But never a mention by those who are fully aware.

[bucket]

You mean like waste heat into greenhouses?

[Guest]

why can't they put those right downstream of any hydro electric stn.? and another , and another???.....

[oneoff]

Its the height of the water behind the dam that cause the pressure. Putting the turbine at lake level won't work well


But as long there is the required elevation drop between the generator sites; then why not cascade sites all way down to sea level.

[bucket]

Oneoff

If the generating station at Gardiner dam had a canal after the turbines I think it could work.


There are tidal turbines that catch the incoming and outgoing tides to generate power.


If you have ever seen the spillway open at gardiner dam ....you can then appreciate the waste of a true green resource.....

[oneoff]

bucket...yes or even supplemental heat for grain drying/aeration, or that huge farm shop or even "other uses" and I don't mean that which might becomes totally legal for 4 plants for adults and personal use LOL

Waste heat is neither under the jurisdiction of Trangas statutes nor regulation and further is has no interest in waste heat. "Energy and Mines" requires proper reporting; but basically there are no royalties and in fact the amount collected by the government for even actual gas wells is pitifully small. Even in the Alberta carbon tax scheme; there is an exemption from oil and gas companies use for their business use.

In actuality; and the real world you are forced to have a registered company name; get along with a very meticulous computer called IRIS and jump through hoops you'd never imagine; well into the future.

[Guest]

Its the height of the water behind the dam that cause the pressure. Putting the turbine at lake level won't work well


But as long there is the required elevation drop between the generator sites; then why not cascade sites all way down to sea level.

Not sure about the process ? Why cant river flow alone turn a turbine ? How does a tidal one work ? I was thinking of that concept. A foot of water makes a lot of pressure . Just askin , thanks?

[oneoff]

Something has to make the water move. Gravitational pull of moon making tides; wind movement causing waves ; flow due to elevation differences as water makes its way downstream; "head" developed by pressure of water basked up by some obstruction (dam etc) .

How are you proposing to intercept that energy stored in that flow of water..

Just musing.

[oneoff]

Two and a half feet of water column develops a pressure of about 1 psi

[Guest]

Two and a half feet of water column develops a pressure of about 1 psi

ok thanks for the info ! it helps