Roundup

[ABfarm]

http://www.realfarmacy.com/reason-toxic-wheat/

Figured this would come out eventually. The Internet truly is a scary thing. Saw this on Facebook and you would not believe what some people think and believe. I saw a thing where it says 'Farmers - trying to feed the world and convince everyone they aren't trying to kill them'. It's so true...stay warm tonight everyone.

[Redone]

I've always found that killing your customer is bad for business

[farmaholic]

I've always found that killing your customer is bad for business

......unless you own and operate a funeral home!

(what{I'm} an idiot.....best to not to speak and be thought a fool than to say something and remove all doubt)

[hobbyfrmr]

The web link definitely has sensational language and some inaccuracies in it. That said, I have been intermittently following Stephanie Seneff's works and YouTube lectures. She is a researcher and she is published. What I find even more scary is .....what if her work is accurate and true? She blames glyphosate for practically every auto immune illness.
If glyphosate is banned or rationed, world crop yields will drop like shit from a tall cow. who will feed the hungry world ?

[URL="http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416/htm"]http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416/htm[/URL]

[checking]

Some people think and believe a party isn't a party without drugs. Then it's my buddy died at a party I attended, and how could a pusher cut their pills with fentanyl. I'm sure many of the same grief stricken ones attend the next party.

It doesn't seem to harm the drug trade by the way they kill off their customers. If anything, it appears to be growing.

Roundup killing people, please give me a break.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Did anyone else read through many of the comments? Most consumers have no idea what goes on on a farm. Many comments stating that glyphosate is never used for preharvest. Now imagine what happens when most of them realize it really does happen?

Preharvest may be completely safe, but if the consumer doesn't want it, regardless of the logic, or lack thereof, why do we insist on producing something which they clearly don't want? This practice will be banned, for right or wrong, Can you imagine what happens if we have an entire years crops in the bins, and it is all unsalable because of a new ban on preharvest glyphosate? Could happen.


On the other hand, I would like to find the glyphosate which releases more seeds, just days before harvest, that would be a sure money maker....... Clueless.

[dalek]

The web link definitely has sensational language and some inaccuracies in it. That said, I have been intermittently following Stephanie Seneff's works and YouTube lectures. She is a researcher and she is published. What I find even more scary is .....what if her work is accurate and true? She blames glyphosate for practically every auto immune illness.
If glyphosate is banned or rationed, world crop yields will drop like shit from a tall cow. who will feed the hungry world ?

[URL="http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416/htm"]http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/4/1416/htm[/URL]

She's a computer scientist with a computer science and physics background. No background relevant to what she spouts off on, her "research" is mostly google searches and computer modelling, and even a lot of her fellow pseudoscience peddlars regard her as a quack

[MBgrower]

Farmers spray it too much, especially preharvest use cant be good for our health.

[oneoff]

Seneff explains that when you expose wheat to a toxic chemical like glyphosate, it actually releases more seeds resulting in a slightly greater yield: “It ‘goes to seed’ as it dies. At its last gasp, it releases the seed” says Dr. Seneff.

AND from same article


What about other crops where Roundup is used as a pre-harvest dessicant such as barley, sugar cane, rice, seeds, dried beans and peas, sugar cane, sweet potatoes, and sugar beets? Will you only be buying these crops in organic form from now on to avoid this modern, man-made scourge?
Credits: Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Can you say "I see this coming?" or better yet "I saw this coming?

[chuckChuck]

Stephanie Seneff is a Senior Research Scientist at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. She received the B.S. degree in Biophysics in 1968, the M.S. and E.E. degrees in Electrical Engineering in 1980, and the Ph.D degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 1985, all from MIT. For over three decades, her research interests have always been at the intersection of biology and computation: developing a computational model for the human auditory system, understanding human language so as to develop algorithms and systems for human computer interactions, as well as applying natural language processing (NLP) techniques to gene predictions. She has published over 170 refereed articles on these subjects, and has been invited to give keynote speeches at several international conferences. She has also supervised numerous Master's and PhD theses at MIT. In 2012, Dr. Seneff was elected Fellow of the International Speech and Communication Association (ISCA).

[oneoff]

And either she doesn't know that any extra seed that a plant may try to produce in its "last gasp"...days before harvesting is never going to amount to a speck of dust and never show up in anyone's food supply


OR the people she talks too are taking her comments out of context...and apparently she is a piss poor example of someone not interested in the truth. The least she could do is correct misinformation that relates directly back to her credibility.


There's a whole lot of that disease going around.

[furrowtickler]

So anyone anywhere paying a premium for wheat or other crops not sprayed with pre harvest glyphosate or reglone ?

May have to bring the swathers back from the grave ?

[fjlip]

Wonder how many times it has to be said, preharvest is listed as a weed control, nothing to do with "killing" the wheat for straight cutting. It is already stopped growing if sprayed at correct time, 30% Mt.
As for weed control POST harvest works better. Don't care if banned, might be healthier for all.

[sumdumguy]

I don't know why we are even having this discussion. How long have scientists had the ability to test for residue? -(Either pre-harvest and mid-season does or does not leave a residue for the end user's concern.)

If there is chemical residue detected, it doesn't really come down to what "scientists" and food safety experts say is safe, its the end users perception that is ultimately important. I personally fear a backlash at some point and the pre-harvest is going to be reason for the backlash. Then we won't even have Roundup for pre-burn, I suspect. The big-acre guys would have a really tough time without Roundup.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I don't know why we are even having this discussion. How long have scientists had the ability to test for residue? -(Either pre-harvest and mid-season does or does not leave a residue for the end user's concern.)

If there is chemical residue detected, it doesn't really come down to what "scientists" and food safety experts say is safe, its the end users perception that is ultimately important. I personally fear a backlash at some point and the pre-harvest is going to be reason for the backlash. Then we won't even have Roundup for pre-burn, I suspect. The big-acre guys would have a really tough time without Roundup.

Exactly, glyphosate is a very important and even necessary tool. If we continue to use it in a manner which our consumers and society don't agree with, we risk losing use of it completely, or it becoming over regulated. Just because we can doesn't always mean we should. If consumers revolt and regulators over react and we loose all use of glyphosate, where does that leave no-till practices?