Scary

[tweety]

You have no fear of Islam grassy?

[burnt]

Quite a few of you looking foolish now - rampant Islamaphobia that leads you to jump to the wrong conclusion that anyone with a name of middle eastern origin must be a terrorist. Funny how Burnt was just lecturing people about their paranoia earlier in this thread. So blind with hatred and prejudice that the idea that muslims would commit a mass slaughter of fellow muslims worshipping in a mosque didn't seem unlikely to you. Doesn't lend much to your credibility as posters contributing to such debates.
And then there is the obnoxious 15444 from the woods of Northern Ontario spreading his different level of racial hatred and ignorance. I hope the administration of Agriville will step up and ban this poster for repeatedly breaching several of the posting rules on this site and bringing it into disrepute. Not just that but bringing Canadian agriculture and farmers as a whole into disrepute.

Wrong again, grassy. The report came from AP that there were two involved in the shooting. So if you want to go blame gaming, you had better go after them for causing the reaction.

When are you and chucky going to answer the very simple question - do you have locks on your doors?

And how do you read Iran's statement in light of their human rights record?

Squirm away there buddy!

[sumdumguy]

Grassy, do you think that anyone in their right mind would condone murder, mass murder at that? Those were sons, fathers, husbands and grandfathers who didn't deserve the wrath of a lunatic. The fanatiscm that is gripping today's masses could fuel more hatrid. We must respect our neighbours government as we would want ours to be respected Gressfarmer.

[grassfarmer]

Other news sources are also reporting the attackers are Muslim.

...In any event, this is what we are importing with Islam. Alexandre Bissonnette and Mohamed Khadir - terrorism of both the home-grown and imported type, but all in the name of Islam.

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...Whether home-grown or imported types, (looks like it might be one of each) they are the natural product of Islam.

Blame the first quote on AP but the others were your foolish speculation based on your anti-Islam prejudices. Not that its any business of yours but I do have locks on my doors but generally don't use them. That wouldn't change if I had an influx of muslims or refugees into my community. I don't suffer from paranoia.

Grassy, do you think that anyone in their right mind would condone murder?.... The fanatiscm that is gripping today's masses could fuel more hatrid. We must respect our neighbours government as we would want ours to be respected Gressfarmer.

The 15444 character was indicating he looked forward to both the PM and the Ontario premier being shot so I guess that proves him not of sound mind? I agree with you that we are in a dangerous period of raised tensions which could fuel more hatred - that was the topic on which I initiated this post. I respect our neighbour's choice of democratically elected Government but I do not respect the actions of that Government when they are throwing fuel on the fire of division, racism and prejudice.

[sumdumguy]

There seems to be something very odd about the news reports regarding the suspect/suspects. Some articles say at least 2 masked gunmen, dressed in black entered the mosque. Now the cops say one was just a witness-there was only one gunman, but witnesses still say there were at least two. This is confusing.

[15444]

There seems to be something very odd about the news reports regarding the suspect/suspects. Some articles say at least 2 masked gunmen, dressed in black entered the mosque. Now the cops say one was just a witness-there was only one gunman, but witnesses still say there were at least two. This is confusing.

Something was not adding up with the story right from the start. Cops had two suspects, then one, then news reports named the one, then retracted, then brought it back. Doubtful this is the end of the story.

[furrowtickler]

The whole situation seems odd , as with the timing of all current events and speed of the suspects whole life story. Terrible loss of life .
Good on the police to get the suspect so quickly. Usually it takes weeks / months for personal info to be let out .
This whole Muslim ban and wild airport protests and this shooting have spun out of control very quickly.
Those protesters need to be controlled as well - peaceful my ass. Knocking people out as the go into airports.
Both this far "left" and far "right" ideology b/s needs to be controlled quickly before a lot more unfortunate things happen.
People need to get a grip and stop pushing their agendas down each other's throats . It's only going to lead to more violence all over.

[burnt]

Blame the first quote on AP but the others were your foolish speculation based on your anti-Islam prejudices. Not that its any business of yours but I do have locks on my doors but generally don't use them. That wouldn't change if I had an influx of muslims or refugees into my community. I don't suffer from paranoia.




The 15444 character was indicating he looked forward to both the PM and the Ontario premier being shot so I guess that proves him not of sound mind? I agree with you that we are in a dangerous period of raised tensions which could fuel more hatred - that was the topic on which I initiated this post. I respect our neighbour's choice of democratically elected Government but I do not respect the actions of that Government when they are throwing fuel on the fire of division, racism and prejudice.

Wrong again, grassy!

Your choice of words does not define who I am, grassy. Your use of labels is the typical - and ultimately, childishly stupid - tactic of the left whose only way of gaining an advantage in their unsupportable arguments is to try to frame the debate in their language.

Suppose you had a wolf attacking your sheep or cattle - what would you do? Obviously, using your logic, your only option is to let him run wild, because to defend against a wolf would make you a lupophobic. And we all know the social stigma attached to being possessed of lupophobia, right?

Can't have that now, can we grassy! So you let the wolves run wild among your flocks...not because they are harmless, but because you know what the sjws would say. :-)

So glad you came clean on the door lock matter. And of course, we all believe your self-proclaimed openness because, well, we just do, LOL! It's not like you've ever had to prove your trust though, right?

[burnt]

Say grassy, if you're still reading here - can you tell us what is causing this massive displacement of refugees?

[grassfarmer]

Agreed furrowtickler, there is a lot of stuff spinning out of control - a very dangerous period in world history. Perhaps this explanation might shed some light on it?

From Heather Richardson, professor of History at Boston College:
"I don't like to talk about politics on Facebook-- political history is my job, after all...but there is an important non-partisan point to make today.

What Bannon is doing, most dramatically with last night's ban on immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries-- is creating what is known as a "shock event."

Such an event is unexpected and confusing and throws a society into chaos. People scramble to react to the event, usually along some fault line that those responsible for the event can widen by claiming that they alone know how to restore order.
When opponents speak out, the authors of the shock event call them enemies. As society reels and tempers run high, those responsible for the shock event perform a sleight of hand to achieve their real goal, a goal they know to be hugely unpopular, but from which everyone has been distracted as they fight over the initial event. There is no longer concerted opposition to the real goal; opposition divides along the partisan lines established by the shock event.

Last night's Executive Order has all the hallmarks of a shock event. It was not reviewed by any governmental agencies or lawyers before it was released, and counterterrorism experts insist they did not ask for it. People charged with enforcing it got no instructions about how to do so. Courts immediately have declared parts of it unconstitutional, but border police in some airports are refusing to stop enforcing it.

Predictably, chaos has followed and tempers are hot.
My point today is this: unless you are the person setting it up, it is in no one's interest to play the shock event game. It is designed explicitly to divide people who might otherwise come together so they cannot stand against something its authors think they won't like.

I don't know what Bannon is up to-- although I have some guesses-- but because I know Bannon's ideas well, I am positive that there is not a single person whom I consider a friend on either side of the aisle-- and my friends range pretty widely-- who will benefit from whatever it is.

If the shock event strategy works, though, many of you will blame each other, rather than Bannon, for the fallout. And the country will have been tricked into accepting their real goal.
But because shock events destabilize a society, they can also be used positively. We do not have to respond along old fault lines. We could just as easily reorganize into a different pattern that threatens the people who sparked the event.

A successful shock event depends on speed and chaos because it requires knee-jerk reactions so that people divide along established lines. This, for example, is how Confederate leaders railroaded the initial southern states out of the Union.
If people realize they are being played, though, they can reach across old lines and reorganize to challenge the leaders who are pulling the strings. This was Lincoln's strategy when he joined together Whigs, Democrats, Free-Soilers, anti-Nebraska voters, and nativists into the new Republican Party to stand against the Slave Power.

Five years before, such a coalition would have been unimaginable. Members of those groups agreed on very little other than that they wanted all Americans to have equal economic opportunity. Once they began to work together to promote a fair economic system, though, they found much common ground. They ended up rededicating the nation to a "government of the people, by the people, and for the people."

Confederate leaders and Lincoln both knew about the political potential of a shock event. As we are in the midst of one, it seems worth noting that Lincoln seemed to have the better idea about how to use it."