Might be an interesting one to watch

[iceman]

I'm surprised pre-harvest isn't gone already. It is horribly abused by people applying too soon when there is still green in the crop. Every time I hear a farmer say the wheat is ready to desiccate I cringe. Glyphosate is NOT a desiccant. It's being used as such and will be eventually lost as a weed control method.

X2 Those lads got taught a good lesson this year on ordering a air strike to early on durum. Lots of 52lb bushel weight when the neighbors got 58lb by letting Mother Nature look after the desiccation.

Iceman out

[blackpowder]

Not sure what you mean by too green. Obviously weight loss is silly. (I'm a little color blind)
Here, if you want dry wheat to cut in first half Sept, your spraying a little ahead of 'recommendations'.
Bonus is quack gone and thistle pushed back.

[fjlip]

Not sure what you mean by too green. Obviously weight loss is silly. (I'm a little color blind)
Here, if you want dry wheat to cut in first half Sept, your spraying a little ahead of 'recommendations'.
Bonus is quack gone and thistle pushed back.

Weed control is better after harvest, shorter days, chem goes down the roots harder. No Wheat to shade the weeds. No tracks in the crop. Swathed wheat/combined dry or dried, for ever without preharvest.

[vvalk]

quote=Retired;336940]VValk YOU are the problem assholes that dont give a shit as long as you can turn a profit,let those bastards eat glyo and learn to like it. The sooner gone the better as some dont respect what it is realy meant for,too dam bad if you cant farm 10,000acres without it.[/QUOTE]

No doubt preharvest will be a thing of the past and has never been practiced on our farm. For years when I was involved in farm politics, I argued that preharvest would not be accepted for long. That isn't the argument I was making. How could you possibly argue that glysophate isnt the biggest change to how we farm. Its what make min/zero till possible. Whats wrong with RR canola helping your rotations? Agreed you cant include RR corn or soy.
Am I missing something retired? You obviously don't farm anymore and probably are that jealous guy at the coffee shop who hates successful farmers. I don't farm for the romantic notion of it or the lifestyle, I farm for profit and I'm not ashamed of it.

[iceman]

Not sure what you mean by too green. Obviously weight loss is silly. (I'm a little color blind)
Here, if you want dry wheat to cut in first half Sept, your spraying a little ahead of 'recommendations'.
Bonus is quack gone and thistle pushed back.

If you wouldn't swath it 2 weeks it's a little young yet.

Seed the crop
Put all the groceries down
Spray for this that and the other thing for crop health. Green longer makes grain you know
Than spray roundup and lose yield because it's too early.

Who are we working for again?

Iceman out

[sumdumguy]

The choice is ours. The BTO's hold the future of no-till in their "profitable" little palms. It is quite a trade-off, isn't tit Retired?

[Retired]

vvalk yes I am more or less retired,no im not jelous,racist,homophobic, but I do get pissed at those that think everyone should have a good dose of glyco,and all sprays that let them farm way more than they could without there chem fix.. Not to mention glyco was and is a very useful chem that we will all lose the right to use because some have no concince when it come to the use of it .

[mcfarms]

Probably the best gift I will leave my son that my father didnt leave me is increasing organic matter , building top soil and feeding at least twice the people of the world per acre than he did. Glyphosphate has been vital to that in our dark brown soil zone. Trying to use it wisely and sparingly as possible through rotation both crops and systems but would be so negatively impacted without it I don't even want to ponder it.

[blackpowder]

I use Gly for preburn. Seldom grow rr can. Swath canola, cant use in malt. Half the time in peas as opposed to reglone. Wheat, well if it grades and weighs and bushels and its off dry?????
Basically green pretty well off the perduncle. Kernels no water drop from end when squeezed.
Something has to kill the whole field top to bottom. That or we swath.
How far south is your patrol area there iceman??




Viper out.

[iceman]

I use Gly for preburn. Seldom grow rr can. Swath canola, cant use in malt. Half the time in peas as opposed to reglone. Wheat, well if it grades and weighs and bushels and its off dry?????
Basically green pretty well off the perduncle. Kernels no water drop from end when squeezed.
Something has to kill the whole field top to bottom. That or we swath.
How far south is your patrol area there iceman??




Viper out.

Patrol west central sk

Iceman out

[SASKFARMER3]

Started a few years ago after hitting every acre every fall for 20 years. Now i still do all my wheat and oats. barley after crop harvested. Peas yes except seed. Canola gets worked none added.

Spring all acres seeded to wheat plus express, Canola gets just one early app after seed is just up on RR and then just before cabbage. Liberty gets a early app on just at dime size plus wildoats chem and then two weeks later just before cabbage strait liberty.

Cutting back but in the east side the only way to get nice even fields is to spray just as the field is turning.

[farmaholic]

Farming without it preharvest is more than possible but when it comes to the RR crops and preburn and general clean up it is a very valuable tool. We all know the job it does preharvest and it is very hard to beat for cleaning up fields and aiding in straight cutting crops that don't mature evenly. But are people actually waiting for the proper timing. Reglone is expensive for pulses but we have been using it and for more than just the fields we want to keep for seed. We will go back after harvest when there is a healthy regrowth and hit it with Glyphosate....is it as good as preharvest? I'm satisfied except for the extra cost and another trip across the field.

We actually use very little preharvest, some years none, reglone and swathers....

Sometimes I think Producers have developed an over dependence on it. Farming has changed and will continue to change, this might be one of those things. Let's not **** this up...follow label recommondations