Oh Chuck.....

[chuckChuck]

Where is your leadership on coal? Are you using coal to heat your numerous houses and shops, dry your grain, power your farm machinery? If coal is so wonderful and cheap why are you not building a small scale coal burning generating station?

[bucket]

Coal plants run 24/7 rain or shine. ..with or without wind.....sun or no sun....pretty important for a industrialized country.

Even more important for a exporting nation like Canada. ...


It's really too bad that fukashima didn't have a small wave for them to make improvements to factor in a 1 in 1000 year tsunami.


Not sure if engineers factor for that....

Just a random thing that occurred that isn't textbook....until it happens.


Nuclear should be safe on the Canadian shield one would think....they mine it there. ...they could refine it and have it making power as well....


But you never can tell if something might go wrong up there as well....so coal is probably the best pick...near the coal mine....

[binthere]

small individually operated coal fired power supply is unsustainable as large solar or wind power is unsustainable or economically viable. now reverse this scenario and voila.

[chuckChuck]

Binthere, If wind is not viable why is Saskpower proposing 1600 Mw of wind capacity?

[chuckChuck]

I realize small scale coal generating is not feasible, but space heating with coal is still in use on farms.

[blackpowder]

Long pastes tend to not get read completely chuck.

Annoying thing about sovereignty, it allows you to do whatever you think is best for you. The Japanese must drag their knuckles too. But I guess they'll just develop better technology instead.
Sad their using their own numbers and not poor Oxfords. Funny how the books look when the artificial carbon market is ignored.
A lot of coal used to ship from the west coast to Japan. But look, we can all sit and wait for the magical cap and trade income to arrive, like Ontario.
Like a Disney script. Waiting for Tinkerbell.

[wakopa]

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Worldwide coal plants
And this doesn’t include the many in the U.S.A. A Google search suggests they have over 1300 plants.
….perhaps it may interest You…isn’t Canada nice ? or what !!!!…

Here's Just a small sample of how many coal plants are out there
EU has 468 plants building 27 more for a total of 495
Turkey has 56 plants building 93 more total 149
South Africa has 79 building 24 more total 103
India has 589 building 446 more total 1036
Philippines has 19 building60 more total 79
South Korea has 58 building 26 more total 84
Japan has 90 building 45 more total 135
CHINA has 2363 building 1171 total 3534
But here comes Canada to shut down our 5 plants and save the planet!

[oneoff]

My tolerance meter for those who can't/won't readily admit the foundation arguments that one should not expect to need to be arguable...is wearing mighty thin.

When something like solar (at approx 15%) or even wind (at maybe 60% on a good stretch) obviously still needs a 100% backup from some other energy source (for 85% or 40%of time)...then please quit pushing so hard.

Its a whole like organic food production .....promoted as 100% safe...the nutrition source of the future..and it probably represents 1% of American continent food and couldn't be ramped up fast enough if promoters ever got what they are pushing for.

It would serve us right if we did end up in your ideal world. In the meantime your're talking about 1% of food and energy......and not even close to being reliable sources for even 1 per cent of food or energy.

When it does come; it will not be attributable to your ignoble efforts

[biglentil]

Chuck let me guess you have never used solar panels or wind turbines. Just preconceived romantic notions of how great it is. Wind turbines never hold up. The wind is gusty and not always from the same direction. The loads placed on the turbine and housing are tremendous. Bird kill is a big problem. Then there is the "noise".


Solar is great until you get a week without sun. Snow, ice, dirt reduce its poor efficency to next to nothing. Hail in the end will inevitably turn it into a junk pile. A typical panel requires almost an ounce of silver. Silver demand is multiples of supply for some time. Where is all this silver going to come from? Leave the solar panels for calculators.

[binthere]

thats the problem chuck. do the right thing with what you do have or try to make everyone happy with what you dont have. spudco or hog barns come to mind.

[chuckChuck]

If solar and wind don't work why are Saskpower and numerous other provinces, states, countries and public and private companies installing them? Saspower is planning on 1600Mw of wind. Why?

[oneoff]

I realize small scale coal generating is not feasible, but space heating with coal is still in use on farms.

Ever phone up Westmoreland coal or a quote. pretty sure that's a thing o the past.

Used to see The Hutterites hauling super B's of coal back to Manitoba. When was the last load spotted. You might find a hefty price on Wyoming coal that travelled through several states and a few Canadian provinces...to the point where long time coal users are giving up.

Sometimes I wonder what can be taken at face value...and what is propaganda and someone else's agenda.

[blackpowder]

Dodds family coal mine still open here.
Chuck. Alternative energy needs development for r&d and feasability study.
Blind pursuit if present, would be attributable to the push from people like you. And of course the unlimited supply of tax income.

[Hamloc]

The CBC and other like minded media outlets constantly talk about how nobody is building coal fired electrical plants and that they are obsolete. But industrial powerhouses like Germany and Japan are still building new coal plants..I guess the left is guilty of purveying "alternative facts" and it is unfortunate in Canada we taxpayers will end up footing the bill.

[fjlip]

The CBC and other like minded media outlets constantly talk about how nobody is building coal fired electrical plants and that they are obsolete. But industrial powerhouses like Germany and Japan are still building new coal plants..I guess the left is guilty of purveying "alternative facts" and it is unfortunate in Canada we taxpayers will end up footing the bill.

Totally agree, media are the biggest liars since Hitler, keep saying the LIE till it's believed!