Trump - Saudi Arabia - oil - imagration

[furrowtickler]

The basics behind his travel ban are common sense - to a point , which is leaving out Saudi Arabia. But we all know why . This makes his whole travel "ban" just anouther circus act by a politician.

[grassfarmer]

Yep, it's easy to forget that with all the talk of "keeping out terrorists" and the dangers of extremist attacks on American soil. 15 of the 19 attackers on 9/11 were Saudi citizens as was Osama Bin Laden.
Before the sun set on that fateful day it's reported Bin Laden's close relatives in the US were secretly airlifted out of the US back to Saudi under orders from George W. Bush.
No chance of Trump ever banning entry to Saudi citizens though - proves what a crock of s_ _ _ the whole EO on banning muslims from the other 7 countries was.

[Oliver88]

The list of 7 countries was actually made up by Obama's administration due to these countries not being able to properly screen refugees.

However I do agree that Saudi Arabia should be added to the list due to the lack of respect for women and other religions.

[blackpowder]

I do agree the Saudi thing.

[dmlfarmer]

No, not common sense, strictly pandering to his base.

average number of American citizens killed by people coming into America from these 7 countries in last decade 0
average number of American citizens killed by other American annually over last decade 11,737.
If he truly wants to save stop killing, look at stopping murders in the US first
!
If this was truly about safety and security of Americans he would be better off to ban lawn mowers than travellers from those countries since 69 Americans have died from lawnmowers each year or lightning which kills an average 31 Americans each year. And the stupid travel ban would be about as effective in preventing American deaths as he giving an order to ban lightning.

[biglentil]

Pretty simple those countries are selling oil outside of the USD petrodollar system. Thats a big no no.

[furrowtickler]

Again dml that list was made by the Obama administration

[dmlfarmer]

So What Furrowtickler? Obama's administration identified 7 countries from which they felt immigrants/refugees from required more intensive vetting - which they did. They did not simply try to ban everyone from those countries wanting to travel to the US. Ridiculous, over the top reaction by Trump to an overblown scare.

I am really getting tired of Trumps argument that it is all Obama's fault and that Hillary would have done worse. The campaign is over, Obama is gone, so how about Trump actually doing something other than simply continuing to campaign. He won. Now do what you promised or shut up!

[sumdumguy]

dml, as I remember it, Trump ( the one responsible for US security) asked for a temporary ban, only a few months to figure it out. I don't think that is too much to ask. What a world we live in! Who the h--- is making the rules-the elected officials or every protester? Isn't this supposed to be democracy, where we elect leaders to make the rules? If you don't want to abide with them, get packing, find another country that suits you better.

[dmlfarmer]

Sumdum: Not a problem??? His executive order included green card holders who were working honestly in the states and now who could not come back to the country if they were holidaying or outside the US. It prevented students from returning to school if they were away the day the order came down. It prevented at least 2 children who were booked for surgery in the US from coming for life saving operations. It separated family members where a member of the family was unable to come home.

All of this to ensure safety and security when there had never been an incident in 10 years! It was unneeded fear mongering and overstepping of the presidential authority.

Had there been an imminent threat I would have accepted his action. But there was not threat and since nothing has happened since the court overturned the order proves this was nonsense from the word go.

Instead of a executive order banning everyone for 90 days, why didn't Congress draft a real bill to solve a real problem. Oh wait there never was a problem that needed solving. More useless regulations and costs.