Throwing Out the Baby with the Bath Water

[bucket]

Big lentil

....got you thinking that the old varieties would perform as well with the agronomics put to them as the newer ones.....which explains why older varieties are being mothballed or reclassified. ....it's all ****ing stupid.

[biglentil]

Big lentil

....got you thinking that the old varieties would perform as well with the agronomics put to them as the newer ones.....which explains why older varieties are being mothballed or reclassified. ....it's all ****ing stupid.

Yep total bullshit. Give em the finger by stuffing some ole grainery before you sell it off.

[Daylate]

I would be willing to bet, there are more "Doomsday" vaults scattered around Western Canada than you think.

[wmoebis]

Its not about in an end of world senario in that case we will be eating weed seeds. Its about losing beneficial traits of old cultivars. Was told a story by a grain buyer that he bought durum from a guy with 0 Fusarium Zilch Natta in an area filled with fuzz. The farmer told him its an old variety that he has been growing for 30 years didnt even spray fungicide. All of it went through the grates. That got me thinking....

Share Variety name? Or can you find out?

[farming101]

Maybe Kyle?

[farmaholic]

Shhhhh......
(maybe Navigator) ....proprietary. ...shhh!

[malleefarmer]

Agree with grassfarmer.

ive got a mate who grows a wheat called "halberd" go phased out in late 70s early 80s he still grows it reckons it better that any new fangled breeds just delivers it under a accepted wheats name still a apw wheat so doesn't matter

main issue here with breeding yield yield yield but no leaf disease resistance as such always spraying fungicide

[tweety]

Farming101

Cancelled by people that are supposed to be looking after our interests....but instead listening to the seed companies.....to extend the patent........


The law should be written that if it's being deregistered or coming off patent ....seed should have open rights.....

Seed isn't patented. Technology contained within the seed is. Those patent dates are set no matter what any seed company does.

Also you signed a contract on those 1990's varieties that said you will not grow it. So you can't, no matter what year it is. That's contract law, not patent law.

In the case of RR, patented till 2022.

[Braveheart]

I'm with Grassfarmer on the Seed Vault. I think it is a benevolent concept. I thought I remembered reading that there even seeds in the vault that were found in the Great Pyramids and were still viable.

[sumdumguy]

Yep total bullshit. Give em the finger by stuffing some ole grainery before you sell it off.

It's a free country, grow what you like. Stuff a bin is right Biglentil.

[Rareearth]

There are many seed storage facilities around the world. They are required for plant breeders to access diversity - so they can breed new varieties. They are all controlled atmospheres, the seeds are regularly grown to maintain viability and germination etc.

Why agriculture doesn't promote this I don't know. Would sure dispell the doom and gloom, loss of diversity nay sayers.

The University of Saskatchewan, Agriculture Canada building has some level of seed preservation storage.

[sumdumguy]

Seed isn't patented. Technology contained within the seed is. Those patent dates are set no matter what any seed company does.

Also you signed a contract on those 1990's varieties that said you will not grow it. So you can't, no matter what year it is. That's contract law, not patent law.

In the case of RR, patented till 2022.

What the h contract did I sign in 1990? - Not! and anyway when a seed no longer has pedigreed status it is not legal to call it a name - as in Laird Lentil - if it isnt registered or certified it is only a large green lentil.

[tweety]

What the h contract did I sign in 1990? - Not! and anyway when a seed no longer has pedigreed status it is not legal to call it a name - as in Laird Lentil - if it isnt registered or certified it is only a large green lentil.

You weren't specific. I assumed you meant RR.

If the variety is deregistered you can't market it. Of course it has a variety name. DNA or Electrophoresis will identify it, by its name. You can't sell your production for seed by name - or at all. But the name stays with that variety forever.