Throwing Out the Baby with the Bath Water

[Ache4Acres]

Agree on the seedbank, but what is the real purpose, except in a very end of the world scenario?

As for canola...go get some non-GMO canola and grow it if you want. It's out there if you want it. The reality is that everyone is fighting to get the latest and greatest varieties...yes it is being marketed down our throats at a crazy price but my mother always said the price of something is always what someone is willing to pay.

[bucket]

My point being is some RR or invigor canola should be off patent and be allowed to be grown or is that not fair?

Farmers sent money thru checkoffs to develop these varieties.....

[biglentil]

Agree on the seedbank, but what is the real purpose, except in a very end of the world scenario?

As for canola...go get some non-GMO canola and grow it if you want. It's out there if you want it. The reality is that everyone is fighting to get the latest and greatest varieties...yes it is being marketed down our throats at a crazy price but my mother always said the price of something is always what someone is willing to pay.

Its not about in an end of world senario in that case we will be eating weed seeds. Its about losing beneficial traits of old cultivars. Was told a story by a grain buyer that he bought durum from a guy with 0 Fusarium Zilch Natta in an area filled with fuzz. The farmer told him its an old variety that he has been growing for 30 years didnt even spray fungicide. All of it went through the grates. That got me thinking....

[bucket]

Big lentil

....got you thinking that the old varieties would perform as well with the agronomics put to them as the newer ones.....which explains why older varieties are being mothballed or reclassified. ....it's all ****ing stupid.

[biglentil]

Big lentil

....got you thinking that the old varieties would perform as well with the agronomics put to them as the newer ones.....which explains why older varieties are being mothballed or reclassified. ....it's all ****ing stupid.

Yep total bullshit. Give em the finger by stuffing some ole grainery before you sell it off.

[Daylate]

I would be willing to bet, there are more "Doomsday" vaults scattered around Western Canada than you think.

[wmoebis]

Its not about in an end of world senario in that case we will be eating weed seeds. Its about losing beneficial traits of old cultivars. Was told a story by a grain buyer that he bought durum from a guy with 0 Fusarium Zilch Natta in an area filled with fuzz. The farmer told him its an old variety that he has been growing for 30 years didnt even spray fungicide. All of it went through the grates. That got me thinking....

Share Variety name? Or can you find out?

[farming101]

Maybe Kyle?

[farmaholic]

Shhhhh......
(maybe Navigator) ....proprietary. ...shhh!

[malleefarmer]

Agree with grassfarmer.

ive got a mate who grows a wheat called "halberd" go phased out in late 70s early 80s he still grows it reckons it better that any new fangled breeds just delivers it under a accepted wheats name still a apw wheat so doesn't matter

main issue here with breeding yield yield yield but no leaf disease resistance as such always spraying fungicide

[tweety]

Farming101

Cancelled by people that are supposed to be looking after our interests....but instead listening to the seed companies.....to extend the patent........


The law should be written that if it's being deregistered or coming off patent ....seed should have open rights.....

Seed isn't patented. Technology contained within the seed is. Those patent dates are set no matter what any seed company does.

Also you signed a contract on those 1990's varieties that said you will not grow it. So you can't, no matter what year it is. That's contract law, not patent law.

In the case of RR, patented till 2022.

[Braveheart]

I'm with Grassfarmer on the Seed Vault. I think it is a benevolent concept. I thought I remembered reading that there even seeds in the vault that were found in the Great Pyramids and were still viable.