Global warming and manufactured doubt Debate in peer-reviewed science about human-ind

[mustardman]

What ticks me is that this tripe is preeched to our kids in schools as though it is gospel and if the teachers don't tow the line, they are punished. What about teaching kids about cautious sceptism? and two sides to every story?

Cautious scepticism?? Please RERead Chucks First posting on Who Creates the Skeptism- its Manufactured

Time you guys figure that you're being Buffaloed into thinking climate change is still Questionable

[bucket]

Not only is it questionable....it's nonexistent. ......climate is always changing.....if it was that predictable .....start giving us accurate weather predictions...

Am I a denier.....you bet....

[furrowtickler]

Two sides to every story , and errr , fact

[fjlip]

Two sides to every story , and errr , fact

Now THAT I believe, screw the Climate Change Nazis!

[furrowtickler]

Also there are far left wing politicians like Macron in France and others in Sweden saying the huge wave of illegal immigration into France and else where is caused by climate change ???
It was NATO , Obama, Bush and the Clintons who are the real cause behind this mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa into Europe by destabilizing Lybia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq - leading to other countries turmoil as well.
This is one of the reasons I believe climate change is being exaggerated on all levels as a scapegoat for a massive problem that is erupting all over - it was massive US NATO foreign policy failure that's created ISIS and massive refugee problems. ...... not the fricken climate - its a scape goat they desperately need to deflect blame of one of the biggest human blunders in modern history .
You can call it a conspiracy theory , but it's not , it's real .
Any way that's my take on the exaggeration of climate change .
I could be way off but I think that it's at least partly right .
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[dmlfarmer]

Furrowtickler and fjlip:

Are you two serious? Have you even looked at the site you are relying on for your "science" and information?

For those of you not familiar with Natural News, who furrowtickler and fjlip are using to justify their climate denial, here is a direct quote from the "about" page of the Natural News website:

"The site strongly criticizes drugs-and-surgery medicine, vaccines, corporate corruption, animal testing, the use of humans for medical experiments, the chemical contamination of foods, heavy metals in consumer products, factory farming and government corruption.

Natural News also warns its readers about science gone bad and frequently cites examples of science resulting in catastrophies that it calls "crimes" against humanity. Examples of such subjects cited by Natural News include:
• Agent Orange
• Thalidomide
• Nuclear weapons
• GMOs and "genetic pollution"
• Aspartame and chemical sweeteners
• Chemotherapy"
•The presence of hidden cancer viruses in polio vaccines"


I note that Natural News is against GMOs, pesticides, vaccines, and even the treatment of cancer with chemotherapy or surgery. So do you two also believe in these positions, or are you willing to publically promote any site and group as long as it also denies climate change?

[furrowtickler]

Dml - lol nope
Just one particular view point that made sense caught my eye is all .

[mustardman]

Looks like 'natural News ' has been delisted by Google due to it being false news ..

What gong show web site are you looking for now boys.... oh the Flat earth Society is still running lol

[chuckChuck]

Here is one of many agriville posters favorite climate change denial myths debunked.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm

Climate Myth...

Climate's changed before
Climate is always changing. We have had ice ages and warmer periods when alligators were found in Spitzbergen. Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer than the present despite CO2 levels being lower than they are now. More recently, we have had the medieval warm period and the little ice age. (Richard Lindzen)

Greenhouse gasses – mainly CO2, but also methane – were involved in most of the climate changes in Earth’s past. When they were reduced, the global climate became colder. When they were increased, the global climate became warmer. When CO2 levels jumped rapidly, the global warming that resulted was highly disruptive and sometimes caused mass extinctions. Humans today are emitting prodigious quantities of CO2, at a rate faster than even the most destructive climate changes in earth's past.
Abrupt vs slow change.

Life flourished in the Eocene, the Cretaceous and other times of high CO2 in the atmosphere because the greenhouse gasses were in balance with the carbon in the oceans and the weathering of rocks. Life, ocean chemistry, and atmospheric gasses had millions of years to adjust to those levels.

Lush Eocene Arctic 50 million years ago

Lush life in the Arctic during the Eocene, 50 million years ago (original art - Stephen C. Quinn, The American Museum of Natural History, N.Y.C)


But there have been several times in Earth’s past when Earth's temperature jumped abruptly, in much the same way as they are doing today. Those times were caused by large and rapid greenhouse gas emissions, just like humans are causing today.

Those abrupt global warming events were almost always highly destructive for life, causing mass extinctions such as at the end of the Permian, Triassic, or even mid-Cambrian periods. The symptoms from those events (a big, rapid jump in global temperatures, rising sea levels, and ocean acidification) are all happening today with human-caused climate change.

So yes, the climate has changed before humans, and in most cases scientists know why. In all cases we see the same association between CO2 levels and global temperatures. And past examples of rapid carbon emissions (just like today) were generally highly destructive to life on Earth.

Basic rebuttal written by howardlee

[chuckChuck]

We can't count on arguments based in peer reviewed science to persuade those who who don't believe in science. We are now in era where lies and fake news are believed by a large percentage of the population.

[furrowtickler]

Climate gate and MSM have lost a lot of credibility on any climate change issues

[fjlip]

"Those abrupt global warming events were almost always highly destructive for life, causing mass extinctions such as at the end of the Permian, Triassic, or even mid-Cambrian periods. The symptoms from those events (a big, rapid jump in global temperatures, rising sea levels, and ocean acidification) are all happening today with human-caused climate change."

And what does COLDER DO? like everything DIES! Nobody wants it COLDER in Canada.
All smiling happy faces/ comments on National last night where temps are record warm!