Is it really worth growing wht?

[farmaholic]

Consistent 60-70's is alot better than hopefully 45 bu/ac.

Then who has the balls to (like tweety said in a different thread) sell what you don't know you will have quality-wise. A neighbor here did a durum contract.....not a happy ending!

[furrowtickler]

We start off with 65 ish with the seed then go from there depending on weather and crop conditions . If we start with more than 75 all we grow is straw.

[farmaholic]

You got to wonder if putting the bulk of the N about 4.5 inches away from the seed row in a midrow band(ten inch shank spacing) is beneficial to the crop not getting it all at once right there right now. I firmly believe that if there isn't a minimum amount of N in the seed row as starter fert the crop kinda suffers before the roots reach the band. I don't think it as bad as some would like to make it out to be but....

[nibs1]

Wheat pays the bills on this organic farm, i use a clover plow down rotation, it has a 14.5 protein no fuzz at all, falling #380. But then again have no new machinery bills, just older good equipment.

[Casered]

How many people on here seed red wheat at 2.5 bushels? If your going by plants per square foot. That rate seems a little heavy to me? Maybe I need to up it. If I seed 2 bushels per acre of Brandon I'm hoping for close to 30 plants per sq foot. Also what seeding depth are most people shooting for?

[farming101]

With 10% mortality that would be really thick on 12 inch spacing

39 plants/sq.ft X 36 g/1000 ÷ .9 ÷ 10.413 = 149.81 lb/acre

[Klause]

6.47 /bu * 67 bu/ac (farm average this yr) = 433.39/ac. Yes it pays to grow wheat.
2.80 /bu * 110 bu/ac = 308 for oats... hmm... yeah no Wheat. plus lower storage/drying/handling/transportation costs.


We seed at 2.5 to 2.7 bu/ac going for 36-38 plants a square foot. 12" spacing, 5" spread. NH3 down the center....


For fertility we use the Western Ag Labs recommendations... Loosely. This wheat was 65-22-8-8








Not bad for a 20 year old drill that cost us $3,000 with NH3.

[malleefarmer]

its getting harder and harder to find a reason for wheat to head north other than drought or war......

Do your darndest to go best crops you can and drive prices lower eh wonderful industry at times

[Klause]

Sample from that field.... this is what came out of the combine. no hand picking, no effing around. Not sprayed pre harvest either.

[Grahamp]

Klaus
Do you feel like the 12" spacing is at all detrimental to wheat? I was looking at a drill that I liked earlier this year but passed because it was a 12" spacing. I thought it was fine for canola but not so good for Wheat. But seeing your crop is giving me second thoughts.

[farming101]

Good job Klause

Hey Mallee the CAD just took a nosedive; farmgate wheat prices turning up here the last day or two
Basis still poor tho

Bad time for the AUD to appreciate. Up over 4% vs CAD since Jan

[Klause]

Klaus
Do you feel like the 12" spacing is at all detrimental to wheat? I was looking at a drill that I liked earlier this year but passed because it was a 12" spacing. I thought it was fine for canola but not so good for Wheat. But seeing your crop is giving me second thoughts.

I think 12" shank spacing is perfectly fine... but 3/4" knives aren't meant for cereals IMHO That's why we use a good old fashioned 6" sweep, backswept fert knife and a 6" spreader... You can notice the "width" of the head-row... it's not one line, but rather a "bunch" of heads.

Seems to be the key in peas also, allowing more pods/plant. This year we skipped every 4th or 5th row (plugged them in the manifold) on 1 field in peas to see what would happen, the rows facing the "skip" had 3 to 5 more pods, which made up for the "lost" plants.... I think you could even go wider if you wanted to in pulses.