Hey chuck here is Australia power comparison

[oneoff]

Well chuckie ain't going to find magic batteries in the next months (or year) so when we all get bills for somebody else's "surplus" peak electricity (most likely at interpprovincial peak rates) then few will shed tears first for any promoter that got us into a green energy induced electrical crisis.. and then especially it should be hoped those who wished for their prematurely preferred power sources...are first to suffer and should be seen to well deserve it.

And just for giggles; in December and January of each year ...that 10 Kw capacity solar array will most likely not quite keep a mercury vapor yardlight lit continuously.

[woodland]

Well chuckie ain't going to find magic batteries in the next months (or year) so when we all get bills for somebody else's "surplus" peak electricity (most likely at interpprovincial peak rates) then few will shed tears first for any promoter that got us into a green energy induced electrical crisis.. and then especially it should be hoped those who wished for their prematurely preferred power sources...are first to suffer and should be seen to well deserve it.

And just for giggles; in December and January of each year ...that 10 Kw capacity solar array will most likely not quite keep a mercury vapor yardlight lit continuously.

Generally my yard light comes on after my solar panels on my portable cattle water trough have called it a day.....
Just saying

[oneoff]

The point was that in December and January you're looking at 400 watts per hour; average output (on a 24 hour basis).

I could prove that based on Ontario experience. Other readers could do the same by visiting the powerhousesolar .ca website.

Just saying. That isn't a slam on alternate energy production; but it is a realistic expectation a person should have for a 10 Kw system for close to 20% of each year.

Its always smart to not swallow without considering all available information; and just blindly encourage and/or pursue schemes promoted as the compete answer; when obvious important points seem to be deliberately overlooked by salespersons and testimonials from those who haven't yet invested one cent of their own money.

[oneoff]

And that Ontario experience includes both sun following capability on a daily and seasonal basis in most cases. That not fixed tilted systems (in most cases)

Its in an arguable more hospitable seasonal environment. Including more southerly latitudes. Including much more robust monitoring capabilities. Supposedly ability to dump snow off solar panel surfaces.

Certainly not near "dirty" polluting coal generation. (or so it is insinuated and argued). And so on.

And never forget the necessity for required backup; which means "redundant" generating or storage capacity for 85% of the time. And if all was fair there would be a fair share that would be paid for by solar "customers" and not just freeloading off infrastructure that some would expect be provided for free to ungrateful subsidy grabbers. Maybe that's why delivery charges for natural gas are about equivalent to consumption costs. And maybe that's where demand charges and base rates for meters are substantial costs to users (some of whom are charged for even a few KVA of electrical demand that stick for months and even a percentage of that doesn't disappear for a period of a year)