A 12 year old explains it

[bucket]

https://youtu.be/JHQOX8EVNmE

[vvalk]

https://youtu.be/JHQOX8EVNmE

What ever happened to that guy on here who was spouting the same thing. He had videos on YouTube about his ranch land and fight big the banks etc etc.
Anyways, ridiculous to have a 12 year old girl memorize and give a speach and talk about something she has no idea about. Would she stay up there to take questions? Who would ask them of a 12 year old anyways.

[bucket]

Vwalk

True....but their is a certain amount of truth to it...simplified sure....but in today's world I think you have to put things to the lowest common denominator....

[vvalk]

Vwalk

True....but their is a certain amount of truth to it...simplified sure....but in today's world I think you have to put things to the lowest common denominator....

Pretty sure that whole room is all about conspiracy theories. The currency markets are the biggest in the world that no one can manipulate. Anything done with currency has to be done with the other 170 countries. Still think having a 12 year old read that speach is pathetic. No different then that young girl giving speeches on GMO and organics that Challenged Kevin O'Leary. She just spouts off stuff that is absolutely false but what can you do about it? No win situation arguing with a 12 year old

[bucket]

I thought China was manipulating their currency which has pissed off the US.

[vvalk]

I thought China was manipulating their currency which has pissed off the US.

Not an expert but countries definitely try to lower the value of their dollar. Japan has been doing it forever but they are pissing other countries off and that's sort of my point.

[Integrity_Farmer]

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vvalk you state "Anyways, ridiculous to have a 12 year old girl memorize and give a speech and talk about something she has no idea about. Would she stay up there to take questions? Who would ask them of a 12 year old anyways".

On February 26 on another thread you state in regards to the WCWG
"My dad would have been a member but never a director".

And you further state "Yes I was very fortunate to lead the grain growers of Canada during the 3 years the Harper govt eliminated the single desk. My grandfather would have been very proud"

vvalk-- You criticize the 12 year old girl in the video but you have much in common with her. You are caring on the family tradition of being a CWB hater.

It is good that you got funded for three by the corporate dominated Grain Growers of Canada for your efforts.

[vvalk]

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vvalk you state "Anyways, ridiculous to have a 12 year old girl memorize and give a speech and talk about something she has no idea about. Would she stay up there to take questions? Who would ask them of a 12 year old anyways".

On February 26 on another thread you state in regards to the WCWG
"My dad would have been a member but never a director".

And you further state "Yes I was very fortunate to lead the grain growers of Canada during the 3 years the Harper govt eliminated the single desk. My grandfather would have been very proud"

vvalk-- You criticize the 12 year old girl in the video but you have much in common with her. You are caring on the family tradition of being a CWB hater.

It is good that you got funded for three by the corporate dominated Grain Growers of Canada for your efforts.

IF. Ok I'll bite. Are you saying I was personally funded? Just so you know in my 8 or 9 years of farm politics I have never received a per diem. Not once. I have had some travel expenses covered but not all. In fact most times I paid for everything myself. Figure I'm out $20k over the years. Worth every penny
And I wasn't 12 when I got started so that whatever I say, I have no problems defending myself

[foragefarmer]

Walk


Where were you when the CGC raised rates during the Ritz Cracker era and now has a slush fund of over a 100 million? The WCWGA are making a lot of noise about it since the Liberal came into power but were certainly quiet back then! In fact I recall there was a thread on the very subject, did you make a post regarding that?

Shows that the WCWGA is nothing more than a political party at best

[vvalk]

Walk


Where were you when the CGC raised rates during the Ritz Cracker era and now has a slush fund of over a 100 million? The WCWGA are making a lot of noise about it since the Liberal came into power but were certainly quiet back then! In fact I recall there was a thread on the very subject, did you make a post regarding that?

Shows that the WCWGA is nothing more than a political party at best

Wrong again forage farmer. WCWGA are on record being against the rates being charged. We said then that it was way too much. In fact we have been asking for a whole revamping of the system. We need to be grading on spec which is how most of our Grain is sold. Our grading system is and has cost farmers more money then the CWB ever did. We have many options to have vessels inspected and graded. In no way can you point the figure to the WCWGA on anything to do with the CGC.

[foragefarmer]

You never did answer my question as to why the WCWGA didn't bring up 100 million CGC slush fund until the Liberals took office.

As for reciting one of the WCWGA suggestions , wasn't the WCWGA in favour of removing the "revenue cap as well, even though the railway earnings on grain movement with the cap on are very good?

[vvalk]

You never did answer my question as to why the WCWGA didn't bring up 100 million CGC slush fund until the Liberals took office.

As for reciting one of the WCWGA suggestions , wasn't the WCWGA in favour of removing the "revenue cap as well, even though the railway earnings on grain movement with the cap on are very good?

The $100M wasn't accumulated till the liberals took office or was that number known until recently. Nothing to do with the liberals or has the WCWGA been critical of the liberals over this. All press releases have been focused on the CGC. We have mentioned that the ag minister has the power to fix this but we haven't been critical of him in this issue. Please find where the liberals have come into this issue by the WG.
As for revenue cap the WG have thrown out ideas that maybe there should be incentives to move more grain when it's needed from Sept to Feb. the railways like to move 1/12 of the crop every month just like the old wheat board days. Not how the world works. What is Average car movement? around 5500 cars a week or something? Why not pay an incentive on top of the revenue cap for every car shipped over that 5500 cars a week or whatever number that makes sense. WG have not come out saying to scrap the revenue cap.
But forage you probably don't like to be creative on how we can make this system better. Status quo on everything including the marketing system. Probably should still be summer following I guess
Lastly who cares how much revenue the railways make. why does that come into your comments? What if you get $30T more for your product cause you move it to port on time or in the right month but the costs to rail it is $5T or even $10T more

[vvalk]

The $100M wasn't accumulated till the liberals took office or was that number known until recently. Nothing to do with the liberals or has the WCWGA been critical of the liberals over this. All press releases have been focused on the CGC. We have mentioned that the ag minister has the power to fix this but we haven't been critical of him in this issue. Please find where the liberals have come into this issue by the WG.
As for revenue cap the WG have thrown out ideas that maybe there should be incentives to move more grain when it's needed from Sept to Feb. the railways like to move 1/12 of the crop every month just like the old wheat board days. Not how the world works. What is Average car movement? around 5500 cars a week or something? Why not pay an incentive on top of the revenue cap for every car shipped over that 5500 cars a week or whatever number that makes sense. WG have not come out saying to scrap the revenue cap.
But forage you probably don't like to be creative on how we can make this system better. Status quo on everything including the marketing system. Probably should still be summer following I guess
Lastly who cares how much revenue the railways make. why does that come into your comments? What if you get $30T more for your product cause you move it to port on time or in the right month but the costs to rail it is $5T or even $10T more

When I say the liberals took office I don't mean it was there fault I mean the timing. The surplus has come from the last 3 big crops and the data is always fairly delayed in coming to the light

[foragefarmer]

Walk

"But forage you probably don't like to be creative on how we can make this system better. Status quo on everything including the marketing system. Probably should still be summer following I guess"

Just because I'm questioning you about issues relating to the WCWGA, don't assume anything about how I think, manage or operate my farm. You being a member of some farm organization doesn't put you on higher ground.


"Lastly who cares how much revenue the railways make. why does that come into your comments? What if you get $30T more for your product cause you move it to port on time or in the right month but the costs to rail it is $5T or even $10T more. "

Sounds great, why didn't get done during those Harper and Ritz Cracker years, especially when you had the ears of a couple of your past members Maguire and Menzies?