Drainage is a topic again being discussed in Saskatchewan.

[bgmb]

One thing though Saskfarmer. The guy in sask who took 8 shitty pothole quarters and spent 4 falls with a sc****r turning them into a 2 section 1200 acre field doesnt pay a ****ing red cent when mb floods, a flood costs mb 100s of millions. Yes it would flood either way but cant say drainage has 0 impact.

[farming101]

One keeps hoping but the forecast for the Quills is not good.
I think the level is up 4 cm since December/16. Not good

Doing nothing is rejecting reality. Lots is being done already to try to preserve and rescue resources.

Further increases up to natural spill levels would mean miles of raised/new highway and railway. The land to the east/southeast and southwest would be particularly hard hit but all areas around the lake would lose. Dafoe would be gone or behind a dyke.

Nobody likes a drought but evaporating it would be a no cost solution

[SASKFARMER3]

I have to disagree with you drainage is causing probably 10% extra water into Manitoba. Manitoba drainage projects the past 100 years probably adds 24% into the streams.

Whats good for Manitoba is ok but Sask. and its bad.

Again the guy in Manitoba complaining into days paper probably was really happy in the 80s farming end to end.

Rain is the cause and drought is the answer.

[farmaholic]

Re: Quill Lakes.

Would be interesting to see the Quill lake's boundaries in the 1980's and the current boundaries. Then something average.

My saying... someone gets the water whether one, ten, one hundred or a thousand miles away.

Just saying. And who hasn't played around a bit?

[bgmb]

I have to disagree with you drainage is causing probably 10% extra water into Manitoba. Manitoba drainage projects the past 100 years probably adds 24% into the streams.

Whats good for Manitoba is ok but Sask. and its bad.

Again the guy in Manitoba complaining into days paper probably was really happy in the 80s farming end to end.

Rain is the cause and drought is the answer.

Sounds to me like we agree you agree that sask drainage is adding more water you say 10%. You might not be far off.

Sask has far more ac of farm land draining through Manitoba than Manitoba does fyi

[redleaf]

Seems like the obvious solutions are the least likely to be considered. SF3's point about full sloughs running when it rains goes over the heads of those who would like all ditches filled. If you take a moment and think about it a slough that is drained and seeded to a crop will evaporate far more water than one left full and its accompanying bathtub ring of alkali and zero plant growth. That full slough and its adjacent barren catch basin will run water across productive farm land and keep the creeks running down to the quill lakes all year long when we are subjected to 30+ inches of rain year after year like we have been for 8 out of the last ten in the area. Another far to obvious solution is cut the measly little one mile two foot ditch and put in a control structure. Now that will have everyone screaming downstream but FFS there is no need to drain the entire quill lakes sea in the peak of flood season this spring. A carefully managed program of draining water in off peak run off would be the suggested course of action. Anyway they can do whatever they want and a few cabin owners will decide that water does not run down hill. A few more summers of 30+ inches of rain and we'll see water flowing into last mountan lake with or without closed ditches. Will be interesting to see if number 6 highway is turned into a damn to hold back the lake.

[farmaholic]

A lot of hard feelings are created with water. Let's say there's a quarter that has a large area of it prone to spring flooding but slowly goes away in time for spring seeding. But the guy up stream needs to hold his water behind a C&D control structure because further down stream can't handle it. When will he be able to let it go? When further down stream is capable of handling it? But it needs to run through the guy's whose quarter is prone to spring flooding but slowly drains by itself.

Devil's Advocate....under certain circumstances wouldn't it be best if people kept their own water. Or consolidated it on their own property. To expect people to allow their property to be used as a conduit for the movement of water off other's property is asking a bit much.

[farming101]

In pothole country after all the sloughs that will retain water are full you then have a big problem.
Allof the rain/snow melt that doesn't soak in has no where to go but downhill
In some terrain situations many hundreds of acres become a watershed with one outlet and one destination; downhill wherever that may be.
Have been on both the receiving and giving ends
Of course there are still lots of low spots that will hold more but you sure wouldn't want to put it there on purpose

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More on analysis of drainage.