Drainage is a topic again being discussed in Saskatchewan.

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Seems like the obvious solutions are the least likely to be considered. SF3's point about full sloughs running when it rains goes over the heads of those who would like all ditches filled. If you take a moment and think about it a slough that is drained and seeded to a crop will evaporate far more water than one left full and its accompanying bathtub ring of alkali and zero plant growth. That full slough and its adjacent barren catch basin will run water across productive farm land and keep the creeks running down to the quill lakes all year long when we are subjected to 30+ inches of rain year after year like we have been for 8 out of the last ten in the area. Another far to obvious solution is cut the measly little one mile two foot ditch and put in a control structure. Now that will have everyone screaming downstream but FFS there is no need to drain the entire quill lakes sea in the peak of flood season this spring. A carefully managed program of draining water in off peak run off would be the suggested course of action. Anyway they can do whatever they want and a few cabin owners will decide that water does not run down hill. A few more summers of 30+ inches of rain and we'll see water flowing into last mountan lake with or without closed ditches. Will be interesting to see if number 6 highway is turned into a damn to hold back the lake.

[farmaholic]

A lot of hard feelings are created with water. Let's say there's a quarter that has a large area of it prone to spring flooding but slowly goes away in time for spring seeding. But the guy up stream needs to hold his water behind a C&D control structure because further down stream can't handle it. When will he be able to let it go? When further down stream is capable of handling it? But it needs to run through the guy's whose quarter is prone to spring flooding but slowly drains by itself.

Devil's Advocate....under certain circumstances wouldn't it be best if people kept their own water. Or consolidated it on their own property. To expect people to allow their property to be used as a conduit for the movement of water off other's property is asking a bit much.

[farming101]

In pothole country after all the sloughs that will retain water are full you then have a big problem.
Allof the rain/snow melt that doesn't soak in has no where to go but downhill
In some terrain situations many hundreds of acres become a watershed with one outlet and one destination; downhill wherever that may be.
Have been on both the receiving and giving ends
Of course there are still lots of low spots that will hold more but you sure wouldn't want to put it there on purpose

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More on analysis of drainage.

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More yet

[farming101]

There is no hope if it rains 26 inches in 2017. none

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Last three pages. Sorry for taking up so much real estate on here but if others can copy and paste indiscriminately .......

[farmaholic]

101.....but what you described is natural. Not enhanced or added to.

[farming101]

Sadly some don't understand.
Many times during a natural disaster options are very limited. The best option is often RUN!

[farmaholic]

With drainage, nobody's loss should be because of someone else's intentional gain. It's bad enough real estate(land) is lost but when yards and homes are lost or at risk because of other's drainage is where.....

[farmaholic]

C&Ds talk about the adequate outlet..... but unless you live beside the ocean or maybe a Great Lake, someone is getting the water or it has to run through their property. Ask yourself if the philosophy of the Sask Watershed Authoritie's C&D projects match your idea of drainage. I can honestly say it doesn't match mine. Don't we all just want to get rid of it NOW! I have land that creating C&D works on would be as onerous as the potholes that are there now.... either I work around a pothole or a drainage ditch.... pick my poison.



This is just north of the community I live by. .... we have it alot better than this but sometimes there just isn't anywhere to put the water..... pot hole country. Our land is higher and drier and better drained but not as good quality as this stuff. We have fewer obstacles, is easier to farm, but not as productive(slum of the Ghetto).

[grassfarmer]

Rainfall in Sask the last 15 years has more than doubled.

A lengthy discussion but all based on a lie. Come up with some real evidence backing this bold claim SF3.

If you think you are getting too much rain do something about. How about you seed your lowest land that floods worst to grass this would use up a lot of excess water and hence how much flows off your land onto your neighbours?

[Klause]

Grassy do I have to bring up the ag can maps again?


Consistent 150 to 200% of longterm averages.


Sloughs never had water now do


You can't put grass into 3ft of water.


Notice how many highways have to get built up? Rm of wolverine half the grids are closed because the sloughs got 10 feet deeper and they don't drain.

[grassfarmer]

Grassy do I have to bring up the ag can maps again?

No, just data from a credible source proving that all of Saskatchewan has had double normal precipitation over the last 15 years. On second thoughts - don't waste your time, I know you have better things to do and we all know it was a ridiculous claim.