President CHUMP the deal maker that can't make a deal????

[the big wheel]

Oh and um. He telegraphed the planet he was going to repeal Obama care. For such a deal maker you d think he would have gotten everyone on line before making that statement.

He's a school ground bully cry baby. He has no people skills at all other than using his New York mafia and Russian mafia friends to negotiate. Lol

[agstar77]

Trump is the ultimate con artist, promise them everything and give them nothing. Healthcare is 2X as costly in the U.S. as in Canada . The U.S. just can not swallow the pill that basic healthcare is a right not an insurable right. You cannot sprinkle fairy dust on it and make it go away. The expense is being eaten by the insurance companies and drug companies. Those lobbyists are not going quietly. Paul Ryan does not even understand that risk is spread over more people costs come down and yes healthy people do pay for sick people.

[westernvicki]

The real story here is: the ability of legislators to exercise independence of thought in voting.

THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN CANADA, which is why we have a parliamentary dictatorship: puppets.

[the big wheel]

That's very true Vicky. Federally and provincially our mla and mps are a waste of time. Honestly if they did a survey I wonder how many Canadians would say that their elected local officials have any say or represent them properly?

That's why their system of independent branches is proving to be better in some ways. Although at times things get tied up there also. Needs to be some sort of balance.

[Oliver88]

Healthcare is 2X as costly in the U.S. as in Canada .

Can you explain where you get the numbers for this claim of 2 x as costly??

I find this hard to believe since in Saskatchewan over 40% of our budget is for health services and taxes are higher in Canada.....I couldn't imagine it being over 80%!!!!!

[Oliver88]

I thought some of you have been calling trump a dictator. A dictator doesn't allow free votes on issues does he? He made lots of changes but apparently they preferred the un-affordable obamacare. Looks like democracy at work.

This is a solid point.
I believe what happened is a portion of Rublican Congress led by Rand Paul want changes made to the bill that was drafted so they voted it down. Soon Obamacare will implode so changes or a new bill will be required anyways.

[farmaholic]

O88....it may be more costly based on costs per procedure etc. but not 80% of budget expenditures. Just saying....not defending or making a "statement" because I can't verify anything. I don't know if it costs more to deliver health care through the public or private sector.

[the big wheel]

Well I don't know how it compares but some locals went holidaying there and had misfortune of a heart attack. Now have a near 150,000 dollar bill.

Never travel without insurance. Which says something doesn't it.

[the big wheel]

Maybe the heart attack was after the bill maybe it was something else originally. Lol.

[agstar77]

Costs are higher partly because anyone who does not have insurance , is pushed to emergency where they must treat them. Emergency is the highest cost service, this is paid by everyone. Whether there is universal healthcare or insurance plans, the need is the same. The real trick is in how you provide the service. The U.S. has higher litigation costs for doctors.

[Oliver88]

Health costs in Saskatchewan 2017-2018 budget:
$5.63 billion or 38% of budget.
Based on 1.1 million people = $5118 per resident.
And after all of this many rural hospitals don't have doctors taking new patients.

Per taxpayer = $12,000 ?

[dmlfarmer]

Can you explain where you get the numbers for this claim of 2 x as costly??

I find this hard to believe since in Saskatchewan over 40% of our budget is for health services and taxes are higher in Canada.....I couldn't imagine it being over 80%!!!!!

A little dated but likely similar today. Excellent charts in article confirming the claim above[URL="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries/"]http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries/[/URL]

here is 2014 chart comparing international health care costs per person
[URL="http://www.pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0006_health-care-oecd"]http://www.pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0006_health-care-oecd[/URL]

[Guest]

The real story here is: the ability of legislators to exercise independence of thought in voting.

THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN CANADA, which is why we have a parliamentary dictatorship: puppets.

Exactly everyone missing that point. The republicans were allowed a free vote

[sk_wheatking]

I thought some of you have been calling trump a dictator. A dictator doesn't allow free votes on issues does he? He made lots of changes but apparently they preferred the un-affordable obamacare. Looks like democracy at work.

Your absolutely right stone picker! But unfortunately haters will hate no matter what. Trump is in it for the everyday average person. He is so hated because he wants to cut through the political bullshit and get the job done for the people. This Russia thing is ****ing sickening already. I still think that there is something more to the surveillance thing. Nobody will ever get the truth out anyway because the Republicans are out to sink the Democrats and vice versa and the likes of cnn and crew are as one sided as it gets.

[the big wheel]

It's a free vote because they would have gotten slaughtered next election.

Republicans with a conscience can't stand the retarded liar sitting in the whitehouse.

You really saying it was a free vote? Maybe it was more fake news reporting where trump was threatening what he will do to those republicans.

He's gradually becoming irrelevant as a mental case serving out a term.