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    Sorrycut and paste on our ongoing energy saga isn south australia. Good read

    There is an inexplicable lack of clarity around the energy crisis even as politicians, business leaders and journalists discuss details of complex policies and proposals designed to correct it. And, worryingly, a shambles created by government intervention is prompt*ing yet more intervention by way of so-called remedies.

    The debate is confined by unspoken mutual agreement so that the main causes and most obvious solutions are not even discussed. This is the constrained world of political correctness taking hold in a crucial area of practical and vital economic policy.

    It should be about cold hard facts: energy demand and supply; resource availability and exploitation; electricity generation and consumption; power prices and security. We should have dispassionate and frank discussions but instead facts are often ignored or denied.

    Since South Australia’s unprecedented statewide blackout in September last year, Labor Premier Jay Weatherill has steadfastly claimed there was nothing wrong with his state’s energy policies or system. Defiantly unapologetic, he spoke about “two tornadoes ripping through” the state in what was “not simply a storm” but an “unprecedented weather event” and he castigated anyone pointing out his renewables-reliant grid was at fault. “This was a weather event,” he protested, “this was not a renewable energy event.”

    Yet this week Weatherill unveiled a $550 million plan to boost state-based gas generation, increase gas supplies, reduce reliance on interstate inter*connection and provide large-scale battery storage to try to prevent future blackouts and load shedding. He is spending more than half a billion dollars on a problem he said didn’t exist.

    Weatherill’s plan is vastly more expensive — by a factor of at least 20 — than the proposal he rejected little more than a year ago: to keep the Northern coal-fired power station in operation. Had he done that the blackouts would not have occurred and the next couple of years would not look so risky as he tries to build more generation and faces more pressure on interstate supplies with the imminent closure of Hazelwood in Victoria.

    The Premier has stuffed this so badly that he plans to bring 100MW of back-up diesel generators into SA next summer. What a shambles.

    When the power catastrophe hit on September 28, anyone familiar with SA’s energy system and policies knew immediately it was a consequence, at least indirectly, of Weatherill’s renewable energy push. This was because the decisive event was the tripping of the main interconnector to Victoria.

    The government’s push for a 50 per cent renewable share undercut the commercial viability of coal and gas generation — as intended — forcing much of the state gas generation into mothballs and triggering the closure of the coal-fired generators. So for the periods when wind or solar weren’t working, Weatherill’s Labor had made the state hopelessly reliant on that interconnector.

    Subsequent technical reports revealed the culpability to be even worse. Rather than being triggered by collapsing towers, the initial problems occurred when wind farms fell off the grid and the sudden drop in voltage tripped the interconnector. Then, with no baseload or synchronous power available to re-energise the grid, the state was stuck.

    The wind push had created the vulnerability in the grid; wind unreliability triggered the blackouts before lines were even brought down; and wind energy was useless when it came to trying to restart the system. Weatherill had introduced Don Quixote to the Ancient Mariner — windmills, windmills everywhere but not a volt to link.

    Now a range of federal and state interventions are floated to fix SA’s problems and prevent them spreading east to the other National Electricity Market states. Apart from publicly funded gas generators and battery installations there are incentives for exploration, proposed changes to the NEM rules and Canberra’s demands that gas producers allocate more of their resources for peak demand domestic generation.

    Serious consideration is given to taxpayer support for a ‘‘clean’’ coal generation plant somewhere on the eastern seaboard and now Malcolm Turnbull has announced a $2 billion medium-term upgrade of the Snowy Mountains scheme to included pumped hydro storage, boosting output by more than 2000MW.
    This is a dog’s breakfast of interventions that can only make it even more difficult for private energy investors, except in subsidised renewables. Yet most of the public debate focuses on the individual merits of the various interventions — band-aids on band-aids. Only a handful of politicians and commentators raise the elephant in the room — the renewable energy target.

    The renewable energy that now makes up more than 40 per cent of SA’s electricity production, not to mention wind and solar projects in other states, has emerged under the RET. This federal scheme mandates and subsidises renewable energy to a target of 33,000GWh by 2020.

    And it is only about half complete — a further $10bn of large-scale renewable energy invest*ment will occur in the next three years. These costs will be met by energy consumers regardless of whether electricity demand increases (ie, regardless of whether the investment is needed).

    Because renewable electricity is intermittent, this investment does not negate the need for other forms of power — baseload — which are required when the renewables go missing. The trouble is, all this has made baseload investment unbankable.

    Canberra’s bipartisan RET has been successful in underwriting renewable projects and helping to close down a series of major coal-fired power stations, but it acts as a disincentive for investment in baseload generation. Hence SA’s dilemma — coal and gas have shut down because their continued operation is financially unviable and there is no incentive to invest in baseload upgrades or new plant to meet the demand that might or might not occur, depending on the vagaries of the wind.

    Even the debate about gas availability isn’t entirely frank. If gas generators were confident about the electricity market they would have locked away long-term contracts and secured their supplies. The RET has killed that certainty — it is no use committing to gas contracts when your electricity price is undercut as soon as the wind blows, leaving them as the bidders of last resort for our gas resources.
    The Pelican Point gas plant in Adelaide, for instance, could soon reboot its second generator but only if adequate electricity contracts can be signed enabling it to enter into gas contracts. It hopes large customers might now be willing to pay a premium for security.

    The Prime Minister has become fond of saying he wants a “technology-agnostic” approach to energy fixes. But the RET is the antithesis of this — it is a massively disruptive market intervention in favour of renewable technologies.

    If the RET were scrapped tomorrow, energy companies would model demand projections and costs and invest in the plant and contracts required to meet demand. That process now is completely contaminated, especially with Labor promising to double the RET after 2020 and the Coalition refusing to say what it will do beyond that date.

    Without the RET, SA’s coal-fired power stations would still be operating and Pelican Point would be running at full capacity. There might even have been more investment in new plant or upgrades to other gas-fired plants. Hundreds of people would still be in work, a statewide blackout would not have occurred, Adelaide Oval would not be looking to buy a back-up generator, power would be cheaper and a $550 million state energy rescue package would not be required.

    Similar chaos awaits Victoria as it pursues a 40 per cent renewable target and Queensland as it chases 50 per cent. All NEM states are already suffering price and insecurity consequences that will escalate dramatically if Labor’s 50 per cent national target is adopted.

    The RET is the problem but both major parties have declared it sacrosanct. The only possible justification for having a RET is to reduce emissions and save the planet. Yet this is obviously not happening because our emissions reductions are internationally insignificant and global emissions continue to rise. This is economic self-harm for no environmental gain — the madness of gesture politics writ large.

    Anyway, there are a million other ways to reduce emissions, if we need to.

    #2
    John Deere has been very successful letting someone else spend years of r&d proving a concept and then copying or buying them out.
    Why should decades of taxpayer debt be completely opposite?

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      #3
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      [B][windmills, windmills everywhere but not a volt to link./B]

      That's a perfect example of why the opinions of "green energy experts" is so shallow. Without googling I dare say this goes over the head of 99% of those who would/could ruin today's energy reliability.


      With googling that quote above; I still dare say that near 100% would ave no clue of what is being talked about from mallee's submission.


      Thanks for the article.

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        #4
        It is hard to find a precedent in history.

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          #5
          Mallee the article is much appreciated. It seems obvious to me that the back up required for wind or solar be it natural gas or much to my surprise diesel fired generators certainly brings up the question is there really a reduction in C02. Think about it, you build 3 times the generation capacity with wind, solar, natural gas and diesel. Obviously building infrastructure releases C02, does the wind and solar ever produce enough power to make up this deficit. I doubt it. How many more examples will we see of bad left wing policies in relation to power generation?

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            #6
            Thanks for the information regarding the energy issues in Southern Australia.
            There is a glimmer of hope now that the US has essentially killed the Paris Climate Treaty.

            The federal Liberal government and Alberta NDP government will pretend the US is on board and try to impose proven failures such as a carbon tax and "green" energy policies.

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              #7
              Definitely worth looking at real world examples instead of some laboratory hypothetical bs.

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                #8
                Right on...100 per cent facts from a real world example. Anyone striving for their pie in sky utopia is bound to be deliberately or inadvertently overlooking the shortcomings.

                In the case of green energy...its the fit wit with existing infrastructure; the duplicating backup necessary (duplicity); various differing supplier inter relationships; priority access to the grid and maybe most importantly the necessity of somehow synchronizing the frequency of multiple somewhat different power suppliers over an electrical grid.

                In short; somebody or something has got to be in charge and be near 100 per cent reliable. You don't do that with everybody doing their own thing.

                What is to be gained in the long run by prematurely abandoning infrastructure and ending with a fatally flawed reliance on a system that needs near full conventional backup.

                Accommodate bright ideas and upstarts within a working system...so long as they aren't a detriment. Don't allow them to call the shots.

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                  #9
                  Economist magazine recently featured an article on similar subject with some of same conclusions.
                  Maybe best bet for Canadians is slowdown in efforts to replace fossil fuels.
                  Wild card is Trump administration and whether it can stay on course.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                    Thanks for the information regarding the energy issues in Southern Australia.
                    There is a glimmer of hope now that the US has essentially killed the Paris Climate Treaty.

                    The federal Liberal government and Alberta NDP government will pretend the US is on board and try to impose proven failures such as a carbon tax and "green" energy policies.
                    I hope you are correct, was thinking same the thing. And neutered the EPA...payback.

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                      #11
                      No doubt their have been problems in Australia in the push to move towards renewable energy. Perhaps Austrailia doesn't have the expertise yet to manage such a push or went too far too fast?

                      So out of all the countries or States to integrate alot of renewables into there energy production most of you draw very wide generalized conclusions without very much information from many of the other successful jurisdictions?

                      Obviously you have already made your decisions and so seize on any problems while ignoring the wider experience. That does not make for objective analysis.

                      In the following article, Eric Reguly talks about the job creation that goes with the new technology. I know many of you will complain about longer cut and paste articles. Perhaps you don't like to read very much or you don't agree with the message. But the world can't be explained in one sentence on twitter.

                      In order to know what is going on you actually have to read information from a wide variety of sources and not only information from your political perspective.

                      Reguly: How Merkel can convince Trump to stay in the Paris Agreement

                      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economic-insight/how-angela-merkel-can-convince-donald-trump-to-stay-in-the-paris-agreement/article34339822/

                      Eric Reguly - European bureau chief

                      Rome — The Globe and Mail

                      Published Friday, Mar. 17, 2017 4:41PM EDT

                      Last updated Friday, Mar. 17, 2017 5:54PM EDT

                      German Chancellor Angela Merkel must feel as if she’s Sisyphus, forever doomed to roll an immense boulder up a hill. She is being punished not because she is a deceitful braggart, as Sisyphus was, but because boulders are in plentiful supply in Europe and no one else seems readily available to do the pushing.

                      With Brexit inevitable, Euroskepticism and populism on the rise in France, Italy and parts of Eastern Europe, she is taking the lead role in keeping the fragile European Union and the euro zone intact. She is the EU’s point woman in dealing with the aggressive alpha males on the EU’s eastern flank, Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan. And now, she has to deal with another alpha male with obstructive tendencies, Donald Trump, whom she met on Friday in Washington.

                      Her mission will add more bulk to her boulder. She has to save transatlantic trade and another international deal that is even more important for the long-term welfare of the planet: the Paris climate-change agreement. While the former effort garners most of the publicity, it is the latter that probably will be Ms. Merkel’s tougher sell, all the more so since Mr. Trump once denounced global warming as a “hoax” concocted by China.

                      Mr. Trump is to environment spending as Ms. Merkel is to defence spending; neither much likes it.

                      By all evidence, the U.S. President is on a mission to destroy his predecessor’s green legacy. Myron Ebell, the head of Mr. Trump’s transition team at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, said in January the White House will “definitely” pull out of the Paris climate-change deal, which was signed in late 2015 and ratified by most countries last year.

                      Also in Mr. Trump’s crosshairs is the Clean Power Plan, whose goal is to reduce carbon emissions from electricity-generating plants by a third, all the better to keep the United States’ fleet of lung-choking, planet-warming coal burners alive. For good measure, Mr. Trump appointed Scott Pruitt, a climate-change skeptic, to head the EPA and announced this week he wants to cut the EPA’s funding by 31 per cent, equivalent to $2.7-billion (U.S.) a year. Budgets for clean air and clean water are to be sacrificed so the Pentagon can buy more weapons.

                      Were the United States, the world’s second-biggest polluter and carbon emitter, to pull out of the Paris Agreement and the Clean Power Plan, the Paris Agreement would probably die. China and the EU, which are both making great strides in clean-energy development, want the United States to stay put.

                      Ms. Merkel is a master of gentle persuasion. How might the world’s most powerful woman convince the world’s most powerful man that sticking with the Paris Agreement is a good idea? The formula is fairly simple: Equate carbon reduction with job creation, technology development and energy security, as China does.

                      For China, cleaning up the city air so you don’t choke to death is not the only goal of the country’s clean-energy agenda. China imports a lot of its coal and almost all of its oil, making it vulnerable to supply disruptions and volatile prices. Energy security rises as it produces more domestic clean energy from solar, wind and hydro sources.

                      Clean-energy investment also creates jobs. A decade ago, China leaped into the solar-panel market. By 2011, its production of solar panels had reached 50 per cent of global output. Today, the figure is even higher. Ditto wind turbines. By 2015, five of the top 10 turbine makers were Chinese, as was the top name – Goldwind. The traditional wind-turbine powerhouses, Denmark’s Vestas and General Electric of the United States, are sliding in the rankings.

                      Besides job creation, the pleasant side of the clean-energy drive is the slow but sure decarbonization of the energy market. John Mathews, professor of management at Australia’s Macquarie University, says the proportion of electricity generated by thermal sources – fossil fuels – keeps declining in China and fell to 73 per cent in 2015. The rest was generated from non-polluting sources, mostly solar, wind and hydro power.

                      Several European countries – among them Germany, Italy, France and Portugal – have also made huge progress in clean energy. In Germany, about one-third of electricity consumption comes from clean-energy generation. Like China, it sees clean-energy technology as a job-creation strategy.

                      It has been in the United States, too, although Mr. Trump seems more interested in preserving the few remaining jobs in the dying U.S. coal industry, which enthusiastically endorsed his candidacy. A recent report by the Environmental Defense Fund said employment in the U.S. renewable-energy sector had reached 760,000, for a compound annual growth rate of almost 6 per cent since 2012. Over the same period, jobs in the fossil-fuel industry fell at an 4.25-per-cent annual rate.

                      Ms. Merkel need not lecture Mr. Trump about anthropogenic climate change. He wouldn’t listen anyway. She could mention that clean energy is a great way to create jobs and industrial clout in new technologies. That would certainly appeal to his “America first” mantra.

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                        #12
                        I know some people who say zero till will never work.

                        Some people are completely unable to use a computer.

                        Others can't parallel park.

                        Is it renewable energy, or is it the lack of skills of the south Australian energy planners? Article did not mention.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tweety View Post
                          I know some people who say zero till will never work.

                          Some people are completely unable to use a computer.

                          Others can't parallel park.

                          Is it renewable energy, or is it the lack of skills of the south Australian energy planners? Article did not mention.
                          The crux of article is you still need non renewable back up from day one in your own state rather have to rely on interstate back up.
                          And as tweety or chuck said maybe RET was to high and perhaps no organized enough.

                          The article wasn't a pro or con for renewable energy just associated problems in state with highest costs electricity in the world now it seems.

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                            #14
                            Couple of thoughts Chuck2. First the insolation factor in Australia is higher than anywhere in Canada so solar power should work better than in Canada. If it raises costs there imagine what it will do in Canada. As for President Obama's environmental legacy, there was 19200 Kim's of oil pipeline built and oil production was doubled during his Presidency. Is that the environmental movements definition of what constitutes being good for the environment? I would say Obama was very good for the oil industry!

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                              #15
                              There is always huge risk of adapting new technology too quickly. Especially mission critical like power. Wow, it has to be hard for those spearheading the resolve to the problems.

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