It's called the "Cradle of Civilization" because that's where civilization is considered to have begun. A lesson perhaps that all civilizations have a life span - like the mighty Roman empire that stretched across Europe and beyond for hundreds of years - and now the Italians couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
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I wonder how much of the American debt is a direct result of fighting wars since Vietnam.
Grassy, Well someone In history rocked the cradle a little too hard!
Gotta wonder what the area would look like if no one meddled in their affairs.Last edited by farmaholic; Apr 6, 2017, 21:46.
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Originally posted by farmaholic View Post....but why doesn't someone else do the ****ing dirty work for once.... Isn't being World Police a little exhausting already? The Middle East is the definition of Hell. To think that area of the world has been known as the "Cradle of Civilization", are you ****ing kidding me and serious. One of the least "civilized" areas of the world. How ironic.
1) The rest of the world , minus a select few who just don't care, are a bunch of pussies. Watch the Head Dildo in this country talk about the 'need for diplomacy' in the morning - if he shows up for work.
2) There is no shortage of countries who are going to need to save their own military for the future civil unrest in their own countries due to their 'open door' policies. UK, Germany, France are all playing with fire. The question is, who or how many, get killed before we get a repeat of 1914?
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostIt's called the "Cradle of Civilization" because that's where civilization is considered to have begun. A lesson perhaps that all civilizations have a life span - like the mighty Roman empire that stretched across Europe and beyond for hundreds of years - and now the Italians couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
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Excuse my ignorance.....did the U.S. allow (m)any Syrian refugees into the U.S.? I guess its a call to help and response on Syrian soil.
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Mass outrage breaks out over the awful gassing of innocent men, women and children.
Trump takes action
Now there is mass outrage over the attempted protection of innocent men women and children
Hilary would have done what???
Can think of better ways to kick start the grain markets especially if putin gets involved and seems hes not happyLast edited by malleefarmer; Apr 7, 2017, 06:10.
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Does anyone have the military might to challenge the Americans? Let alone the technology to do it successfully? Remember Reagan's Star Wars? Would single volleyed missiles make it through to American targets? Would some, of a barrage of missiles, make it through? All while the Americans could likely strike unlimited targets In countries without anti guided missile defenses. Seems to me crippling a Superpower's military would best be accomplished by targeting their satellites! My how things have changed.
I'm sure the scariest part is we don't know what already exists or is being developed.Last edited by farmaholic; Apr 7, 2017, 06:52.
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Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post....Now there is mass outrage over the attempted protection of innocent men women and children
....Hilary would have done what???
Hilary would have done more likely - she has always advocated cracking down on the Assad regime and it was the one thing she was critical of Obama on.
Unfortunately it is a largely symbolic gesture, destroying some infrastructure and maybe killing a few of the Syrian military but it doesn't touch Assad.
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Farmaholic, "military might" isn't necessarily what it takes to achieve military success - winning the hearts and minds of the people on the ground is and that's a lesson the Americans have failed to learn. In Vietnam after the failure of the Tet offensive the Americans used their military might to "bomb the country back into the stoneage" - didn't result in victory for them in that conflict or in Korea or Afghanistan. While it would be nice to fight "clean" wars where you play from a distance with fancy weapons and don't need troops on the ground the reality is somewhat different. You've got to win the people over to change the country.
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