The case for a carbon tax (and refund system)

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Interesting question (maybe not smart): cc. -If the price of oil reached $200 per barrel next month, would the world use more oil or less oil?

On a individual basis,. according to a friend who answered this question for himself during the $140 and higher barrel days, he filled his vehicle up at the pump, and thought, this is a lot of money for a fill up. Then, he went to the post office, and found his monthly oil royalty cheque had arrived. and realized that it had gone up substantially more. Needless to say, his response was to let the gas price go to whatever level it wanted.

As a socialist, cc., how would you control a guy like this?

Interesting question fjlip: Who wants it colder?

Not me. Thankfully, no one can control the weather, or the climate. They can tinker, but the beat goes on.
The world will see that a warmer planet will not do in the human race. If you want to worry, be very afraid of a cold planet.

[grassfarmer]

Chuck your comment Ag will have to do things to reduce emissions.

WTF is my comment. And WTF have we been doing since 1981. Direct seeding has caused our farm to go from work in fall, work in spring seed and harrow to one pass. Using 4 times less diesel. Then were strait cutting our crops which have cut down on harvest diesel. Our tractors are all DEF and that has added a great cost to our farm for air pollution controls.

Yet a city genius like you thinks we have to do more as farmers are you F$%King kidding me.

How about paying me the true value of what we have done with Carbon sink and not making up bull shit that its just a small amount.

This is a liberal tax grab and wealth redistribution.

Once again SF3 your stories waver - one pass eh? what about all the tales of "working it black" with your Kelly harrow as the only way to go? And you commute from the city to the farm on a daily basis in a one ton diesel - i'm sure you could reduce your fuel bill and emissions quite a bit right there. Tough being a PTO. In reality even if everyone had adopted zero-till in 1981 the emissions from the increase in fertiliser usage since then would likely have negated any savings.

[SASKFARMER3]

Your a moron aren't you! Way less than we use to do! Unless when we used horses! That's your only answer god your grasping at straws!

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Chuck you must be a unionized citing or a recent I'm mag rant because you know *** all about agriculture. You lefties forget where we live and we need carbon to survive in this climate maybe you should move to Greece and see how a country full of people like you can run a country into bankruptcy with all their leftist rules.

[sofa.king]

Damn spellcheck I hate it. It should be citiots as idiot from the city and immigrant.

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Don't let gas upset you, SF3.

I believe there is no human in gas, only a vapour bot. Captcha proves it. Otherwise you would have seen a climate friendly body walking in front of his cows with a chop pail to lead his animals to pasture rather than a machine.

Climate bots use the word "likely" in many of their sentences. It means they are uncertain.

[westernvicki]

Administrative nightmare = more jobs in government administration = more votes = better job creation numbers, plus and a cheque in the mail for a few = more gratitude = more votes. Take a dollar give a dime, (its part of the job creation strategy after all) tax the job creators, any movers and shakers, they are the minority after all. Carbon Tax has a better value chain for a politician. Good luck with the political appointment moving on up chuck
chuck.

Worst possible scenario for Canada, but otherwise, " Glory be. "

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[URL="https://www.agriville.com/threads/33897-farming-causes-global-warming"]https://www.agriville.com/threads/33897-farming-causes-global-warming[/URL]

Grassfarmer just confirmed what we already knew - he showed one of two things - he is a useful idiot who believes what the elites are telling him, or, he is actually working for them.

Either way, when you start with a false premise, nothing you do thereafter matters - all conclusions are wrong.

Some thought-provoking stuff in this production, and it confirms what many have wondered but are afraid to consider because of its gravity. It also offers a solution:

[grassfarmer]

Please yourself. You can either be involved in the discussion and shaping the future or you can remain ignored on the lunatic fringe. A carbon tax is coming and the more say we have in it's design the better.
Darrin Qualman has come up with a framework of how a carbon tax might be operated and is trying to get the best deal possible for farmers out of it. Where are the other producer representative groups and what are their suggestions?

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Please yourself. You can either be involved in the discussion and shaping the future or you can remain ignored on the lunatic fringe. A carbon tax is coming and the more say we have in it's design the better.
Darrin Qualman has come up with a framework of how a carbon tax might be operated and is trying to get the best deal possible for farmers out of it. Where are the other producer representative groups and what are their suggestions?

Discussions with idiots are seldom productive.

But the idiot feels fulfilled.

[sofa.king]

So grassy you say farmers should just bend over and take it because trudeau is going to give it to us whether we want it or not. Last time I checked that is called ****.

[westernvicki]

I do agree with the point: where are farm organizations on this issue. How much time was spent on a strategy and a list of ultimatums. Is there a strategy? Do we have a bargaining committee? Is there a bus?

[biglentil]

Grassy you should stay on the beef forum. Do you see any of us bad mouthing your beef industry?

[Braveheart]

Qualman has company in KAP. Dan Mazier has a boggy farm and it's our fault because of climate change. Yes, Qualman and KAP are holding us down for the Trudeau assault.

I think the Wheat Growers are the only ones standing up for farmers and opposing the carbon tax. They'd rather see farmers not transfer their wealth off to I dunno where. Maybe astrologists?

As far as a carbon tax coming, MB and SK should use the notwithstanding clause to opt out of any forced federal scheme. If QC can do it on language it can be used for something as damaging as a carbon tax. Wouldn't that be a kick in JT's nuts. Using Pierre's constitution to screw the son's crappy plan.

[grassfarmer]

Thus far the strategy seems to be denial as evidenced by Western Wheat Growers - but hey, at least they have voiced an opinion which is more than most have done. KAP and the NFU recognize the inevitability of the tax and the need to be in fighting to get the best deal possible for the farmer.