Why is Canada different?

[burnt]

Burnt


"What makes you think that I supported everything that Harper did? I AM saying that his government keep Canada on a track that kept us in good shape when the rest of the world was in a financial spin."


Bullshit to you, it was Paul Martin who prevent the Canadian Banks from falling into the trap that so many major world wide banks fell into! In fact Closet Boy Stevie who was the opposition leader at the time fought tooth and nail against Martin's wise decision all the way. So don't give the credit to Stevie!

Burnt, as for you supporting Harper, just who the hell do you think you are fooling, you put the X during election time for Harper!

My oh my, how uncivil! Want to make a Conservative mad - tell him a lie. Want to make a Liberal mad - tell him the truth.

Paul Martin deserves credit for what he did right as Finance Minister in spite of being in a conflict of interest position most of his time there. But that's just the Liberal way, so we accept it...

I will most certainly give the credit to the Harper government for what they did right and I certainly did support him at election time.

That's not the same as supporting everything his government implemented.

Look at what we have now.

[blackpowder]

Ya, you're right. There are some on here I would never want to meet.

[foragefarmer]

Burnt

"Want to make a Conservative mad - tell him a lie. Want to make a Liberal mad - tell him the truth.


Not sure where you fall in as you admitted it was Martin not Stevie who saved the Canadian banks from financial ruin, and you DID support Harper with the X.

Great back peddle Burnt from your previous post to Chuck!

[burnt]

Burnt

"Want to make a Conservative mad - tell him a lie. Want to make a Liberal mad - tell him the truth.


Not sure where you fall in as you admitted it was Martin not Stevie who saved the Canadian banks from financial ruin, and you DID support Harper with the X.

Great back peddle Burnt from your previous post to Chuck!

Well okay, I will risk telling you the truth again, in spite of your obviously impaired cognitive abilities.

I said to give credit for what each accomplished. Nowhere did I try to credit the Harper government for what Martin did almost 20 years ago, or even make any reference to what he did.

Harper gets full credit for what his government did in the last go-around when the US and everyone else was floundering and dumping billions into failing programs.

But there will always be those like our chucky and foragefarmer who don't see the benefit in balanced budgets, steady economic growth, lower taxes, all happening without dismantling the level of benefits that this country has come to expect.

They think it's better to spend tens of billions on partisan toys and trinkets and plunge our progeny's future into the abyss.

What is it about leftists that makes them see everything backwards, as in "mirror image"?

Deplorable, really.

[Integrity_Farmer]

Good thread you started, blackpowder. Africa is a mess and getting worse. My daughter works in an African pediatrics ward in back-country hospital where electricity is rather unreliable, so their critical equipment - i.e.: the oxygen concentrator - doesn't always run when needed. Last last week they lost 5 babies in five days partially due to not being able to give them oxygen.

It could be summarized by saying that they (the Africans) seem to have a different work ethic and level of motivation than we westerners have. Thus, goals are lower and outcomes are compromised. And it nearly rips the soul out of my daughter, as she tells us of the pain and frustration from eight thousand miles away. She speaks of working in a disparate world that we can barely imagine. She also has several years of experience working in a hospital here in Ontario where the levels of redundancy are amazing - what a contrast.

So it's hard to isolate the fundamental problem over there.

What is disturbing is that our system has peaked and is deteriorating. Government interference is increasing while rights and productivity are on the decline as a Marxist mindset wraps its tentacles around the pot-damaged minds of today's post-secondary graduates.

Such a neuro-compromised child is now the "leader" of our country, bringing with him predictable results. His greatest legacy will likely be either flinging the doors open to the Muslim invasion or perhaps legalizing the bong that turned him into the mush brain that he is.

So our leadership transitioned from someone whose general policies made Canada the envy of the world in many ways, to a bong-banger that is creating a nightmarish network of legislation that couldn't be better designed to destroy a country and turn it into a 3rd world hellhole.

And THAT, foragefarmer, is why some who exercise a bit of critical thinking are disturbed by what we see happening to our homeland. It's not that other countries have it better, it's just that we recognize what we have, how we got it and would like to keep what we have.

But it only takes a few determined degenerates in the rights places to destroy a good thing.

It seems that Africa has not got the freedom and democracy that the US is bringing the mid east.

Retired general Wesley Clark explains in this 2007 video how the US planned to got to war with and take out 7 countries in five years. Clark explains how Africa has no oil and it does not get the attention that the mid east does. What is going on in the mid east is premeditated. Invading another country or region for its resources is a war crime.

Trump said recently regarding Iraq. "I believe we should just take the oil". So it is all about the oil.

The countries mentioned by General Clark are Iraq Syria Lebanon Somalia Libya Sudan and Iran. Most of these countries are in various stages of war and destruction.

Wesley Clark video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

[foragefarmer]

Burnt

"But there will always be those like our chucky and foragefarmer who don't see the benefit in balanced budgets, steady economic growth, lower taxes, all happening without dismantling the level of benefits that this country has come to expect."


Where did I say in any of my posts I don't believe in balance budgets, I just straighten you out that it was Martin that saved the Canadian banks from financial ruin. Don't make up if you can't debate rationally. Speaking of balance budgets Martin was the best at that.

What did Closet Boy leave behind in national debt after getting booted out? Give it up your going in circles!

[Guest]

Hell of a concept this "Competitive Enterprise Institute" has come up with. Twenty million suffering from famine, most countries are run by dictators, and the rest have terrorists groups raising havoc and they come up this. Nothing like stating the obviously!

For those of you feeling that you got it so bad here in Canada, which country in Africa would you choose to raise your family in or farm in?


Caseih

When Martin was running for re-election as PM did you ever vote for him, or did you you mark your X for Harper? I'll bet you voted for Stevie as he had so much job experience on his resume, and now you complain about Trudeau.

I really liked martin , excellent business sense , real good guy . wished we had him now . he wouldn't be running this mess we're in now . he knew that money , once spent or given away had to be repaid

[chuckChuck]

I also believe in balanced budgets, but not when there is an economic downturn as that leads to less economic activity. Was that not the big lesson the world learned after the 1930s?

We also need to to stop cutting taxes on corporations and high income earners. The tax burden has shifted to individuals away from corporations. We can also take alot bigger share of one time resource revenue in the form of royalties.

It seems like we are in a race to the bottom. Who can offer the lowest tax jurisdictions. Is it any wonder we don't have balanced budgets.

If you want a live in a developed country with property rights, rule of law, a good education system, a good healthcare system and good infrastructure you better be willing to pay for it. All these things lead to to a good standard of living.

[bucket]

Chuckchuck


Don't forget there should be a premium corporations pay to do business without bullets flying overhead or roadside bombs to worry about.

Posses me off that we offer the moon to companies and still clean up their mess when they leave.

Wasn't it Brad Wall offering incentives a couple weeks ago but a few months ago asking Ottawa for money to clean up abandoned wells....

And now we find out CP was given 52 million worth of land at the GTH....Hunter must have the video.....

[stonepicker]

I also believe in balanced budgets, but not when there is an economic downturn as that leads to less economic activity. Was that not the big lesson the world learned after the 1930s?

We also need to to stop cutting taxes on corporations and high income earners. The tax burden has shifted to individuals away from corporations. We can also take alot bigger share of one time resource revenue in the form of royalties.

It seems like we are in a race to the bottom. Who can offer the lowest tax jurisdictions. Is it any wonder we don't have balanced budgets.

If you want a live in a developed country with property rights, rule of law, a good education system, a good healthcare system and good infrastructure you better be willing to pay for it. All these things lead to to a good standard of living.

There's a difference between paying modest taxes and having oppressive taxes. We had a good standard of living in the 70's with minimal gov. debt. All of a sudden EVERYONE gets greedy and gov. promises the moon to stay elected, plus big gov. equals big waste and we've had big waste ( gov. inefficiency ) for the last 40 years. There's a difference between paying taxes for medicare etc. and the obscene waste and inefficiency that we pay for now.

[bucket]

Good point stonepicker...

Now it's government feeding off themselves under the disguise they are creating something....more regulations, more meetings and still more people......eventually it will correct with a lot of fat trimmed....


Farming is the same we spend to try to do better but trim the extras in tough times....well some do....others repaint

[chuckChuck]

Yes there is waste in government especially when you get politicians who are so tied to their corporate friends they cut their taxes and give them unnecessary tax breaks, grants and subsidies.

Almost everyone in this society waste a lot of everything on useless consumer items that no one needs. Everyone wants the 5000 square foot house they can't afford and several $60,000 vehicles, a boat and a cottage, a condo in Hawaii and several overseas vacations a year. Not to mention a cell phone and a data plan for every kid.