farm Reassessments

[Braveheart]

Forage, WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever stuck up for farmers in your life? This is excessive taxation. Just because farm property is reassessed higher doesn't change the farms ability to pay more. In fact, it's the opposite. Also, assessment is only a snapshot of values at that time. Since reassessment, values here have now dropped by, in many cases 30%. That won't show up till next reassessment.

Our RM has shifted the burden of financing the RM operations from the urban to the rural, yet, we have virtually no services. Our roads are shit, infrastructure like culverts are too small, ditches don't work. Road graders are more like recreation vehicles. Drivers rest more than drive.

Our RM, since amalgamation, and electing councillors at large, has virtually all urban councillors. They don't understand farm finance. We had one promising (farmer) person run in the last runoff but he lost in a close vote.

Our farms are under attack. Taxes, whether RM or carbon are choking us. You Forage, seem just fine with that. Why? Not a farmer? Just love gov't (must be a commie)? What? Tell us, besides the "hard workin dairy farmer" you never seem to give a shit about standing up for farmers.

[stonepicker]

like.

[sumdumguy]

Forage, WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever stuck up for farmers in your life? This is excessive taxation. Just because farm property is reassessed higher doesn't change the farms ability to pay more. In fact, it's the opposite. Also, assessment is only a snapshot of values at that time. Since reassessment, values here have now dropped by, in many cases 30%. That won't show up till next reassessment.

Our RM has shifted the burden of financing the RM operations from the urban to the rural, yet, we have virtually no services. Our roads are shit, infrastructure like culverts are too small, ditches don't work. Road graders are more like recreation vehicles. Drivers rest more than drive.

Our RM, since amalgamation, and electing councillors at large, has virtually all urban councillors. They don't understand farm finance. We had one promising (farmer) person run in the last runoff but he lost in a close vote.

Our farms are under attack. Taxes, whether RM or carbon are choking us. You Forage, seem just fine with that. Why? Not a farmer? Just love gov't (must be a commie)? What? Tell us, besides the "hard workin dairy farmer" you never seem to give a shit about standing up for farmers.

Forage, you must be my retired left-limping bureaucrat brother-in-law who resents everything agrarian and loves the old NDippers.

[blackpowder]

If I may ask for perspective. What in general would taxes be on a quarter?
Here about $500. No idea assessment. Selling for $700k.
Yardsite maybe $2000.

[Braveheart]

Blackpowder, one of our quarters (average) has 157.2 acres cultivated.. Taxes are $2,262.02. With one phone call I could sell it for $480,000.

[Braveheart]

Assessment would be about $380,000. Portioned assessed is 26%.

[Horse]

Brave heart, I cll bulshit my tax notice came today and yes my home 1/4 is 2200 tax but the rest are in the 350/425 range. So this is in Alta and not the best of land but I surly doubt you average 2200/. 1/4 a .5% increase this yr on average.

[Braveheart]

You can call anything you want, bullshit,no shit,I don't care. Kinger, Wakpoa, Stonepicker, Jay-Mo, Barleyman, all farm near me and will echo what I've said. Much of MB is the same. I don't know anything about AB, or SK, but we had Selinger and the NDP, and we're screwed near term thanks to them.

[MBgrower]

Im east of braveheart and my taxes are higher than his, jumped way up last fall. The taxes on rual town homes went down. Farmers picking up the tab now for town dwellers, not not mention we pay school tax on every parcel of land, and the town dwellers only pay once. As i mentioned awhile ago on this site, the govt is going after farmers for increased tax revenues, wait until the carbon tax comes calling!!!

[Klause]

Brave heart, I cll bulshit my tax notice came today and yes my home 1/4 is 2200 tax but the rest are in the 350/425 range. So this is in Alta and not the best of land but I surly doubt you average 2200/. 1/4 a .5% increase this yr on average.

Manitoba land taxes are way higher than in ab/sk. However you must have some real shitty land in order to get your taxes that low. About 800 a quarter here 103k assessed haven't gotten the new ones yet.


Land taxes are nuts for the service we get... especially considering we pay an extra levy for drainage in addition to our taxes

[Braveheart]

An extra levy for drainage? If, and that's a big IF, I could drain, I might consider a drainage levy a good investment. However, drainage just improves my ability to pay the land and school taxes that are already in place. I really don't mind paying taxes for services that should be there but, WE DON'T GET ANY SERVICES.

[GDR]

Sounds like we're kind of spoiled in AB on land taxes. Lowest quarter is about $250 for basically pasture land, highest is about $500 for fully cultivated land. Market value of both about the same 700ish. Home quarter around 2000, we have a partial exemption for houses on ag land and farm buildings exempt. Same yard on acreage would be more than double.

Our municipalities have relied on taxing oilfield and commercial .for years. That has come to an end and are dipping in reserves. I'm sure over the next couple years we will have substantial increases.