Fertilizer pricing

[henbent]

TOM4CWB, I guess what we are saying, is that, it is a given, good crop year or high commodity prices = high fertilizer prices next season.

[henbent]

Henbent my boy you never disappoint me. Oh! what's a lily livered FORKER or was I suspose to read something into the missed spelling possibility.

Didn't grow any barley this year or for the last 6 years for that matter dosen't make money. It will not gross over $250/ acre on any consistant basis so it has no place in the rotation on my farm. Select or not.

I'am getting tried of supporting you my friend and huge changes are coming with the way the CWB is operated due to their marketing ability and it is coming real soon. You heard it here first.

Henbent the time for me supporting you has come to an end. But I'am sending you out on your own as a result of the tough love I have for you. I really hope you can make it on your own.

God this is fun isn't it. But remember you heard it here first. The new dawn of marketing wheat and barley will be upon us real soon.

God I hope my handle remains a secret like the CWB marketing of my wheat does.

[henbent]

03 NOV 12 22:04 Listen pal, windbags like you are a dime a dozen. Big changes have already occurred in the grain industry, if you haven't noticed. The changes have not all been good either, if you haven't noticed. Don't hold your breath, waiting for the demise of the CWB, because cooler heads have prevailed in the past and will do so again! If you are counting on Ralph to lead you out of the wilderness, lets all hope that he starts drinking again. He made more sense and was more fun during the good ol days.

[wd9]

This started out as a good discussion on fertilizer and yet again, as so many of these threads, spirals down to a select few who overtake the discussion insulting each other on CWB positions. I am sure that myself and many others are simply tired of it so please keep the discussion on topic and utilize new threads for those discussions.

Further up was a question on fert prices, $375 for urea and $395 for phosphate - North eastern AB. Bin stored and banded only.

[TOM4CWB]

WD9;

Numerous deals have been made at over 5% under your quoted prices... watch it, most will deny the lower prices are avaliable!

[TOM4CWB]

Wd9: If you were producting fertilizer instead of wheat would you like it if someone like the CWB would single handedly decide how much you were getting paid for production.

We will pay what the traffic will bear for open market fertilizer and the same open market proceedure should discover what we get for wheat.

Lets stop whinning about input prices and create a fair market for our product and let the supply and demand rule. If you can't stand the heat get a job and let some one else worry about it.

Farming is a business not welfare for a family way of life.

Oh by the way Urea is $350/MT

[poorboy]

Shop around on the phosphate price. With the dollar climbing the phos is dropping. The problem is that most dealers filled early and are stuck peddling phos at the high price.
urea here is 350 and 11-52-0 is 329

[crusher]

I'd drive a few miles for $329 phospate, where would that be?

[crusher]

Ron: Now you have hurt my feelings. you have taken the 1st prize for being rude and with the use of some very explicit language have taken the Agri-ville prize for literacy.

I did enter a price for urea for you along with someother information but aparently you can't walk and chew gum at the same time Oh! I'm sorry I was being rude again. But it might be humor then again would depend on how far your eyes are apart to beable to tell the differents.

Fertilizer could be your only topic.

Ron I love you and keep those cards and letters coming.

[poorboy]

East of Calgary, at one of the new independants.

[crusher]

Thanks for the reply poorboy.

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[cowman]

Just a short note on fertilizer pricing.
About 5 years ago there was a new outfit going around offering a great price on fertilizer. I took the quote into my local dealer and showed him. He opened up his books and showed me he couldn't even buy it for that price! His price allowed him a 12% markup over what he bought it for. Which is fair I believe?
Now here was a dealer who sponsored the ball and hockey teams, put on a customer appreciation day and was very involved in the community. Very honest and straightforward. Been there forever and wasn't going to bail out. So I went with him.
Guess what happened? The fly by nighter went broke in less than a year, ripped off a lot of farmers and spent some time in jail for fraud! It turned out he had also not been putting all the fertilizer on that farmers had paid for!
Now the next year when the wayward farmers came back to the local dealer, who do you think got treated best?

[TOM4CWB]

Cowman;

If we farmers had 12% markup over cost we would be VERY happy... there is simply not this much profit in the grain business.

6-8% is much closer to a reasonable number, which many will sell at... if they need a stable long term relationship with those farmers who they value a relationship with.

Cost control of our crop protection/fertiliser supplies is the most visible and easiest one of our costs we have a direct say in how much we pay.

It is critical that a fair cost is charged to farmers don't you agree?